Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:47:18 -0500 From: Paul Langille To: p8021@nic.hep.net Subject: Partitioning of VLAN Tasks Greetings. I heard, many times over the course of the Montreal meeting, that no one was offering any contributions on VLANs. There are probably many reasons for this. I believe one reason is that the VLAN problem is just too big for one person to embrace. No one has the spare time needed for this commitment. Another reason is that it is hard for one person to lead a group this size to consensus. So what can we do? Well, rather than dwell on the reasons, I propose we do the following. Divide the problem into smaller (somewhat) manageable pieces. Put together small study groups, made up of 2-5 individuals, to work separately, in parallel, on the smaller pieces. This work would probably be done via Email or phone conversations. These small study groups would then present at the January interim meeting (or before via the mail exploder). Breaking up into smaller groups will reduce the duplication of effort and help move some of the foundation work forward. I feel this is important since there is not a lot of time between now and the January interim meeting. This concept is basically the same thing we did in Denver. I am merely proposing we continue to do this off line in a more streamline fashion. I also don't feel that individuals are required to `join' one of the study groups. Actually it would probably be better if the groups were kept small so there could be consensus within the study group. (Remember all the information gets presented in January.) Here are my `current thoughts' on how to partition the various VLAN tasks. Have a look and let me know what you think. (Do we need more groups? Is the whole idea junk? etc.) Partitioning of VLAN Tasks: 1) VLAN methodologies or mechanisms - Generate a complete list of VLAN methodologies (port based, MAC based etc.). Include any definition of terms needed for clarification. (Most of this is a consolidation of information from previous meetings.) Include pros and cons in this list. If possible list requirements and features. 2) Tagging architecture - Generate a complete definition of terms. Some of this was done in Denver and Montreal so this information just needs to be consolidated into a single document. Continue the definitions to include the types of tagging. Make this a complete list and (attempt to) list pros and cons. This could be expanded to include a list requirements and features. The next step is to take a network view of tagging (translations etc.). 3) Spanning tree - List requirements, features and definition of terms. Investigate all configurations (single, multiple, overlapped). List pros and cons of each. It is important when investigating the pros and cons to note the level of complexity and any related problems. 4) VLAN Management - define membership, auto-configuration, (adds, moves and changes). Keep in mind that I still feel that we need to follow Mick's suggestion and develop the user view paradigm. (Maybe this could be another study group.) I did not include it because the user view is more of a horizontal view and I am proposing vertical ones. I feel the way to proceed is to first agree on the partitioning and then look for volunteers for each of the groups. Remember that most of the work done by the study groups between now and the interim meeting will probably be to consolidate what has been done so far. I believe there is a lot of `stuff' that we agree on but it is not formally documented. At least getting this done is a good first step. Another key thing to note is that this partitioning is not meant to imply `acceptance' into a VLAN standard. For example, we may (as a group) decide not to include multiple spanning trees or tagging in the standard. Let's gather the information and then make the decision. Paul Langille Ascom Nexion langille@nexen.com