Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 10:40:09 EST From: "R. V. Slager (3-4017 / tl:441-4017)" To: p8021@nic.hep.net Subject: Minutes (proposed) IEEE 802.1 opening plenary, 11/95, Montreal Following is the proposed minutes of the opening plenary of the November 1995 IEEE 802.1 meeting held in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. This are to be confirmed at our next meeting. Please send any corrections to me ... thanks, Rosemary +++++++++++ Minutes (Brief), 802.1 Opening Plenary Montreal, Monday, 11/6/95, started at 3:15pm (submitted by R.V.Slager) 1. Voters and voting - Hal Keen 31-33 voting members, up from 20ish at last plenary. (Hal has list...) Hal went thru the membership/attendance requirements 2. 802.1 Voting Liaisons - Keen ----------- Whereas -802.1 values liaison input from other LMSC Working Groups, and in no way wishes to reduce its importance, but -the current liaison arrangements create administrative difficulties by reason of excessive complexity, 802.1 resolve, with the approval of the LMSC Executive Committee, to eliminate the multiple categories of liaisons and adopt the accompanying... (See "Rules for voting liaisons", document #: p802.1 95/062) Proposed: Keen, seconded, = Slager yes=19, n=0, abstain= 3 ----------- 3. Documents - Keen 802.1H will be distributed at this meeting. (voting members (VM), Wed.,am) All other 802 documents (802.3u, _________ ,802.12) (VM, Wed.,pm) 4. Details for this meeting - Lidinsky - rooms, etc. 5. Minutes approval: Maui meeting - Hal will get copies of minutes from Maui. Mick will get copies from minutes of Denver... These will be distributed at subsequent meetings, approval to be voted on at 802.1 plenary. (Thursday, 1pm-5) 6.Executive Committee Report -Lininsky a. ITU-T Lisason Fred Burg's proposal (conferencing specs....) b. ANSI Action Items for this meeting from 802.1 9543 8802-1 Status of 16-bit MAC addresses (For a copy of this letter, see document # p802.1 - 95/061.) 9636 15802-5 Recommendation for DIS Remote MAC Bridging (11/27) (Alan Chambers will address this later in meeting, ...) c. SSG (802 Strategic Study Group) Meeting (Wed 1-6 pm McKenzie Room) wants a representative from 802.1 (Where are we going... what is the purpose of 802?) John Boal is one of 802.1 members who plans on attending this meeting. (Bill has a set of foils (9) given to him wrt the questions/issues to be raised in this session.) John Boal will go as our rep and report back to us. The spirit of 802.1 seemed to be one of ...(not interested...) d. 802 Study Groups vs 802.1 Task Groups (Study groups needs to be re-affirmed each plenary?) Bill needs position from 802.1. -vLAN is being addressed by the internetworking TASK group. Statement of scope of vLAN activities at Tech Plenary - necessary e. vLAN patent issue; later 7. 802.1p Traffic Expediting and Multicast Filtering - Jeffree, Lidinsky PAR approved, Document on server Comments so far ? comment to use EGMP (--doc. on server.) Actions: ? 8. 802.1j/D5 Confirmation Ballot - Chambers , confirmation ballot closed valid 17 out of 20 voting members...= 85% return rate. passed, 15 out of 16 (disapproval is correct, simple to fix.) 9. 802: Overview and Architecture - Chambers WG+ ballot still running, but valid ballot, 12 VM out of 21 = 57% failed so far, 9 out of 15 = 60% 10.FRTS (Functional Req. Task Group) - Lidinsky -no activity. action? 11.Electronic Distribution of 802.1 Documents - Lidinsky All documents to be in machine readable form Everyone to be able to print postscript Everyone has FTP access 802.1 WWW server? pdf documents (Adobe Acrobat) Move to IEEE server now that it has its act together? 12. Technical Plenary, Wednesday am Schedule: , - Lidinsky 8:30am Overview and Architecture 8:45am Multimedia 9:00am vLAN 9:30am 802.10 / 802.1 vLAN - 9:30 10:30am Flow control primitives 8:30am Overview and Architecture 8:45am Multimedia 13. ISOC Recognition - Lidinsky (5:04pm) What is ISO position WRT ISOC? ANSI? Is it time for 802.1 to take a position? 14. Internetworking 15. Request for comments on flow control primitives in 802.12 (defer to technical plenary...) 16. Request for reserved multicast address for 802.3x. Alan Chambers will formulate a motion on this. 17.vLAN - Seaman, Lidinsky Patent issue Ascom-Timeplex / Xylan Attorney asked me (Bill L) to review 802.1 files at FNAL 802 Study Groups and 802.1 Task Groups Statement from 802.1 ? Status statement for Tech Plenary, must do Status : Mick foil -------------------------------foil 802.1 Interworking VIRTUAL LANS -October '96 interim -Requirements -Network topologies -Device capabilities -This meeting, prepare PAR PURPOSE & SCOPE (From interim) LIAISON/DISCUSSION Continued requirements Discussion 802.1p Multicast Scoping & Traffic Classes in MAC bridges -Multicast Registration Protocol -Informal Liaison with mcast IP developers 802.1d MAC bridges, revision 802.1j ballot (covered).. --------------------------- PURPOSE: (why vLANs?) (-from morning's pre-meeting...) DEFINITION-Administration, use of service, provision and support -Necessary properties, desired properties (fitness for purpose) -Deduced properties SCOPE OF STANDARD REQUIREMENTS: scale performance (thruput, delay) reconfiguration, service availability compatibility interoperability supported configurations security? ------------------------------- Week's plan Tuesday 8:30-10:30 am vLANs, Purpose Scope requirements 11 vLANs & ATM: McCloghrie 1:30-3 Multimedia 3:30-4:30 O&A 4:30-5 flow control primitives Wednesday 8:30 am: 802.1 technical plenary Wednesday 1:30pm-5 vLANs Spanning Tree resilience Thursday 8:30-11:30 Multimedia