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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAH] Call for submissions for next week's TGah teleconference



G’day all

 

It has been pointed out to me that a valid comment resolution cannot include a promise of future work.

 

On this basis, I propose that we do NOT resolve the outstanding comments. Instead, we should develop and execute a process to consider alternative technologies as part of 802.11ah.

 

I understand that suggestions will be made this week on how this might be done.

 

Andrew

 

From: stds-802-11-tgah@xxxxxxxx [mailto:stds-802-11-tgah@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Myles (amyles)
Sent: Monday, 6 July 2015 11:24 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGAH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAH] Call for submissions for next week's TGah teleconference

 

G’day Yongho

 

I note that there is still no accepted LoA relating to a very long list of asserted IPR for 802.11ah. I request that the TG consider ways of following the advice of the IEEE-SA SB, which was (my bolding):

 

The participants in the development of the standards project at issue should be cognizant of the fact that there is not such an Accepted LoA on file, and that the SASB will take that fact into account when determining whether or not to approve a standard.  Accordingly, such participants may wish to consider alternative technologies.

 

It is possible that an LoA is accepted by the IEEE-SA in the future. However, unless the LoA provides RAND terms, as defined by the IEEE-SA IPR policy,  I will continue to request that the TG consider alternative technologies.

 

It terms of the current unresolved comments, I suggest the following resolutions:

 

·         7001: ACCEPT: the TG will develop and execute a process to consider alternative technologies as part of 802.11ah. It is possible that this process will result in significant changes to the 802.11ah and considerable delay before the next Letter Ballot

·         7002: REVISE: the TG accepts the spirit of the comment in so far as technology not subject to an accepted LoA should be avoided. However, it might not be possible to remove all such IPR from the draft. Therefore, as an alternative, the TG will develop and execute a process to consider alternative technologies as part of 802.11ah, as previously suggested by the IEEE-SA SB

·         7003: REVISE: same as 7002

·         7012: REVISE: The 802.11 WG cannot force Qualcomm to provide a legally binding statement. Regardless, it is unclear that the IEEE-SA SB will recognise anything other than a properly completed LoA. The TG will consider asking the IEEE-SA SB for further advice on how to proceed.

 

Andrew

 

 

 

 

From: stds-802-11-tgah@xxxxxxxx [mailto:stds-802-11-tgah@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yongho Seok
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2015 3:06 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGAH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGAH] Call for submissions for next week's TGah teleconference

 

Hello all,

The next TGah teleconference is scheduled on July 7 (5PM PST).

Currently, only four LB211 comments (CID 7001, 7002, 7003, 7012) related with an intellectual property have not been addressed. I would like ask to submit any document to address them.
But, only technical document (for example, a submission of alternative technical proposal) is acceptable, not permitted to discuss any LoA and IP related issue. 

Please refer the below IEEE Patent Policy materials.
- http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf

 

IEEE 802.11ah Task Group Chair
Yongho Seok

 

— Proposed agenda —

- Call for secretary

- IPR and other relevant IEEE policies

- Attendance Reminder (send an email to leizd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and/or yongho.seok@xxxxxxxxx)

- Review the LB211 comment spreadsheet (11-15/525r1)

- Submissions to address comments received on Draft 5.0

 - TBD

 

— Relevant IEEE policies —

NOTE: Please review the documents at the following links:

-  IEEE 802.11 Working Group Operartions Manual – 11-14-0629-10-0000-802-11-operations-manual.docx

 

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Subject: TGah Teleconference (July 7)
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