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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAY] Discussion and consensus needed on way forward option on Tuesday AM2

Hi Edward,
Thank you for reaching out to the members and explaining the situation and options. I have a few negative comments in LB241 as I see there are some deficiency and quality issues in 11ay D4.0. 

Although, I personally prefer to resolve these issues before the IEEE SA technical ballot (i.e. Option 2), it is not my objective to slow down the progress in TGay.  If TGay reach a consensus on Option 1 in Vienna, I am willing to go alone with the group. (BTW, I will not be in Vienna next week.)

As to how to reject LB241 comments, I think it would be better if they are withdrawn by the commenters. Some of the reasons for rejection as proposed in 11-19-1180r1 may not be seen as sufficiently justified, IMHO.

Therefore, if TGay indeed reach the consensus on Option 1 on next Tuesday, please let me know so that I can consider the withdrawing. Thank you.

Best regards,

Yunsong Yang

Futurewei Technologies

10180 Telesis Court, STE 400

San Diego, CA 92121

Phone: +1-858-754-3638



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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:53 AM
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Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGAY] Discussion and consensus needed on way forward option on Tuesday AM2
 
Hi,

In our teleconference call on July 10 (Wednesday), the task group
members have discussed two way forward options related to the start of
the IEEE SA technical letter ballot (c.f., slide 14 of the July 10th
agenda slide deck 19/1174r0):

Option 1
- Reject all comments with sufficient justification in the July
plenary (4 sessions);
- Seek IEEE 802 EC (conditional) approval for going to IEEE SA ballot
using D4.0 in the IEEE 802 EC closing plenary on July 19;
- Issue another 15-day recirculation working group letter ballot for
D4.0 (i.e., unchanged draft) tentatively from July 22 to August 5;
- Start a 30-day IEEE SA technical ballot tentatively from August 12
to September 11.

Option 2
- Resolve all comments in the July plenary (4 sessions)
- Seek IEEE 802 EC (conditional) approval for going to IEEE SA ballot
using D5.0 in the IEEE 802 EC closing plenary on July 19;
- Presuming Editor needs two weeks to prepare D5.0, issue a 15-day
recirculation working group letter ballot tentatively from August 5 to
August 19;
- Reject all the comments received from D5.0 with sufficient
justification as soon as possible during teleconference calls;
- Start a 15-day recirculation working group letter ballot for D5.0
(i.e., unchanged draft) immediately afterwards, which requires a task
group motion in a teleconference call (see the condition set in the
previous slide);
- Start a 30-day IEEE SA technical ballot immediately afterwards.

During the discussion yesterday, some task group members have concern
on the timing of the option 2 because it may result in no work to be
done in the September interim in Hanoi, while option 1 follows the
timeline the task group has agreed in the November 2018 plenary.

Please review on the above two options, and see if there is any
additional option you would like the task group to consider.   My plan
is to ask the task group to review and discuss all possible options
and reach a consensus on Tuesday AM2 (i.e., the first session of TGay
in Vienna).

Lastly, the comment spreadsheet on D4.0 for LB242 has been uploaded by
our Editor on mentor:  19/1180r0.   During the discussion in the
teleconference call yesterday, he has proposed rejection reasons for a
few CIDs in 19/1180r1 in case the task group follows the November 2018
timeline agreement and choose option 1.   Please note that these are
the resolutions proposed by the Editor and reviewed during the
teleconference call, but these are yet to be approved by the task
group.   Please do review and provide our Editor any comment.

Have a safe trip and see you in Vienna.

Regards,
Edward

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