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RE: [RPRWG] Potential Problem with P802.17/D0.1 PHY proposal Draft 0.34 and related .pdf slides=incorrect mapping to SONET/SDH



Hi Alan,

thanks a lot for your important issues.

Regarding the first issue, I think that there was a miscommunication 
between IEEE 802.17 and T1X1.5. In the liason we drafted in September 
we mentioned the 802.17 WG is evaluating the usage of the frame-mapped 
GFP with null extension header as ONE option to map RPR over SONET/SDH. 
We did not mean as the SOLELY option.

To solve the issue, I would propose to make another liaison in January 
to inform T1X1.5 that we are currently defining two options for mapping 
RPR over SONET/SDH.

Regarding the second point, I agree with you that the PoS-like mapping 
we are defining is not compliant with RFC 2615 (PoS).

I would then propose to use a different Signal Label code to be 
required to T1X1 and ITU-T.

Are there any other views on these topics?

Italo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan_Weissberger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:Alan_Weissberger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:26 PM
> To: stds-802-17@xxxxxxxx
> Cc: Alan_Weissberger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Steve_Gorshe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> weissber@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [RPRWG] Potential Problem with P802.17/D0.1 PHY 
> proposal Draft
> 0.34 and related .pdf slides=incorrect mapping to SONET/SDH
> 
> 
> 
> All
> 
> 1.  T1X1.5 and ITU SG15 have decided that RPR MAC frames are 
> to be mapped to SONET/SDH using Frame Mode GFP with a null 
> extension hdr.  This was a direct result of the liaison that 
> we sent to T1X1.5 as output from our Sept 2001 meeting (there 
> was no mention of byte stuffed HDLC as an alternative mapping 
> in that liaison).  At the SG15 Nov meeting, GFP Ring mode 
> text was removed in deference to the RPR-to GFP frame mode mapping.
> 
> This means there is currently no other way to map RPR MAC 
> frames to SONET/SDH!  In particular, RPR mapping over "POS" 
> would not be recogized (there would be an incompatibility if 
> one RPR node used GFP and the other used "POS" mapping) 
> 
> 2.  Even more important, the Path Signal Label (PSL) code 
> point assigned to "HDLC" in T1.105.02 (SONET) and G.707/G.783 
> (SDH) is for PPP over byte stuffed HDLC (AKA Packet over 
> SONET or POS) with a specific payload scrambler.  Using byte 
> stuffed HDLC without PPP is not POS, as it is defined by the 
> IETF.  Thus, it would be a violation of use of that PSL code 
> point.  Hence, the referenced RPR PHY proposal for RPR- "POS" 
> mapping to SONET/SDH violates the definition of POS (RFC 
> ___), in addition to both T1.105.02 (SONET)and G.707/G.783 (SDH) stds.
> 
> 
> I have copied Steve Gorshe -the editor of T1.105 series 
> standards and G.gfp- in on this mail and have dissucesed this 
> issue with him
> 
> I will be writing separate mails on why I feel the current 
> RPR proposal are too complicated to be deployed and 
> maintained by service providers
> 
> Rgds
> 
> alan
> 
> Alan J Weissberger
> DCT
> PO Box 3441
> Santa Clara, CA 95055-3441
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> 
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