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RE: [802.21] Availability of latest draft



Ajay,
I indeed missed that and I apologize, but apparently several people did from the replies I got.

I believe this group needs the draft ASAP to be able to proceed. If we want to submit contributions for September, we need the draft now, and from my point of view too much time has passed already. I understand from your previous e-mail that there are issues with the website. I have no visibility of that, and I'm sure you're applying sufficient pressure to get things done. In the meanwhile, I wonder why the draft cannot be sent to the mailing list. After all, the recipients list would be exactly the same, since once you upload the draft to the protected site you will have to send the password to the list anyway, so everybody on the list will be able to access it. Why not sending it now, given the long delay already? I wonder how many other people on the list have the same feeling.

Thanks,
Stefano

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Ajay Rajkumar [mailto:ajayrajkumar@lucent.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 00:26
> To: Faccin Stefano (Nokia-NRC/Dallas)
> Cc: STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802.21] Availability of latest draft
> 
> 
> Stefano,
> 
> Please look at the same minutes you mention and look at 
> section 4.6 "New 
> or Unfinished Business"
> 
> This question was brought up on the floor at that time. After the 
> discussion on the pros and cons to secure the WG draft, a 
> straw poll was 
> conducted. The results were unanimous in favor of securing the draft.
> 
> Based on the unanimity of the sentiment a decision was taken to place 
> the draft in the password protected area.
> 
> Let me know if you still have any questions.
> 
> -ajay
> 
> Stefano M. Faccin wrote:
> 
> >Ajay,
> >please bear with me. In a previous e-mail I asked why the 
> latest version of the draft is not yet available on the 
> server, and you mentioned we decided at the last meeting to 
> store the document in a password-protected area of the 
> server. Since I did not recall such decision, I took a look 
> at the minutes. In document 
> 21-05-0334-01-0000-802_MIHS_minutes_2005_07_21.doc containing 
> the minutes of July 21, it says in section 3.1.5:
> >
> >3.15.	Process for Contributions 
> (21-05-0313-02-0000-process_for_contributions.ppt, Chair of 
> IEEE 802.21)
> >3.15.1.	Q: Should the WG draft be protected by a 
> password? Ajay: will address that later
> >
> >No further discussion is mentioned in any of the minutes, 
> and no decision is documented. Since there was no conclusion, 
> I would have expected the draft to appear on the website as 
> soon as submitted by the editor. Can you clarify?
> >Stefano
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: ext Ajay Rajkumar [mailto:ajayrajkumar@lucent.com]
> >>Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 18:45
> >>To: Faccin Stefano (Nokia-NRC/Dallas)
> >>Cc: Williams Michael.G (Nokia-ES/MtView)
> >>Subject: Re: 
> >>
> >>
> >>Stefano,
> >>
> >>It was decided during the July plenary that since the draft 
> >>is a work in 
> >>progress it should be posted only on the private (password 
> protected) 
> >>location of the website, as is done by most IEEE WG.
> >>
> >>The private website is already set up with the documents already 
> >>uploaded. However, I am waiting for a new "members-only" 
> >>email list to 
> >>be established by the IEEE Listserv Administrator so that I 
> >>can send the 
> >>login/password announcement to this list.
> >>
> >>Let me know if you have any questions,
> >>
> >>-ajay
> >>
> >>stefano.faccin@nokia.com wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Hi Ajay, I was wondering if there is a particular reason why 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>the new version of the draft is not posted yet. If I'm not 
> >>wrong, Vivek delivered it on August 1. It would be great to 
> >>have it posted ASAP.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Stefano
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
>