Re: [802.21] Operator ID assignment in 802.16
Functionally there is no difference. OUIs are distributed to manufacturers.
802.16 Operator IDs are distributed to operators. The process of acquiring a
code and administering the database is the same. It is only a difference of
the requesting organization; operators versus manufacturers.
Regardless, this is not a matter for debate. It is done. 802.16 had this
matter under discussion for some months. There was even an 802.16 Working
Group Letter Ballot on the material submitted to the IEEE-RAC. Everyone has
had amble opportunity to comment on this matter. The material was submitted
and the IEEE-RAC made its decision at their annual (yes, they only meet once
a year) meeting last week.
And this only affects 802.16. Other networks will use whatever method they
choose. I see no reason that the 802.16 decision should prejudice other
technologies. They may or may not choose the same administration.
Thanks,
Phillip Barber
Chief Scientist
Broadband Wireless Solutions
Huawei Technologies Co., LTD.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hong-Yon Lach" <hong-yon.lach@motorola.com>
To: "Phillip Barber" <pbarber@BROADBANDMOBILETECH.COM>;
<STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [802.21] Operator ID assignment in 802.16
>I think the "co-ordination" between NIC manufacturer IDs and operator IDs
> are quite different regarding management responsibilities. One is
> associated
> with standards, the other is associated with trade/operation.
>
> Regards,
> Hong-Yon
>
>> From: Phillip Barber <pbarber@BROADBANDMOBILETECH.COM>
>> Reply-To: Phillip Barber <pbarber@BROADBANDMOBILETECH.COM>
>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:43:35 -0500
>> To: <STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org>
>> Subject: Re: [802.21] Operator ID assignment in 802.16
>>
>> Indirectly, 3GPP and 3GPP2 network operators already submit themselves to
>> the 'authority' of the IEEE-RAC.
>>
>> IEEE-RAC is the authority that distributes and administers
>> Organizationally
>> Unique Identifiers (OUIs) which are the basis for MAC Addresses that all
>> Ethernet (and many other devices) use. If you have a Wi-Fi card, it has
>> an
>> IEEE-RAC assigned OUI as part of the MAC Address. How do 3GPP and 3GPP2
>> operators feel about MAC Addresses and Wi-Fi?
>>
>> But IEEE-RAC is certainly a non-traditional source for Network Identifier
>> Codes as opposed to Device Identifier Codes, there can be little doubt of
>> that. Nevertheless, if we are willing to trust the IEEE-RAC to administer
>> OUIs, then confidence for administration of Operator IDs is not too much
>> of
>> a stretch. And the IEEE-RAC is well equipped and has a long history of
>> such
>> number space administration. Anyway, it was not like 802.16 was given a
>> wide
>> selection of choices on this matter.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Phillip Barber
>> Chief Scientist
>> Broadband Wireless Solutions
>> Huawei Technologies Co., LTD.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Qiaobing Xie" <Qiaobing.Xie@motorola.com>
>> To: "Peretz Feder" <pfeder@LUCENT.COM>
>> Cc: <STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org>
>> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [802.21] Operator ID assignment in 802.16
>>
>>
>>> Will this be acceptable for non-IEEE operators (3GPP, 3GPP2)? Will they
>>> feel comfortable to put themselves under the authority of the IEEE
>>> Registration Authority?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> -Qiaobing
>>>
>>> Peretz Feder wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave and MIHers:
>>>>
>>>> Per my comment this morning regarding NAP/NSP, please see the attached.
>>>>
>>>> In 802.16, the Operator ID will be assigned as an IEEE 802.16 Operator
>>>> ID by the IEEE Registration Authority. The IEEE Registration Authority
>>>> will be the sole authorized number space administrator for this
>>>> function.
>>>>
>>>> The IEEE Registration Authority is a committee of the IEEE Standards
>>>> Association Board of Governors. General information as well as details
>>>> on the allocation of 802.16 Operator IDs can be obtained at
>>>> http://standards.ieee.org/regauth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peretz Feder
>>>>
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