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Re: [STDS-802-3-400G] Sept Interim Meeting Material Posted



My proposal is not to assume very low loss technologies for technical feasibility, while simultaneously assuming that future integration will bring the cost down. I’ve heard many times on questioning that products will be cost reduced in the future with ‘Integration and SiP’, although no presentations as to whether these proposals would allow for such measures.

 

As per what I think are likely losses for WDM MUX/DEMUX I’ll refer you to my prior bm and bs presentations on the matter, at least for 2L and 4L. I don’t have anything on 8L as I don’t believe such solutions will ever allow for integrated solutions, although I may be able to provide more quantitative answers in our next meeting.

 

Brian

 

From: Chris Cole [mailto:chris.cole@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:05 AM
To: Brian Welch; STDS-802-3-400G@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Sept Interim Meeting Material Posted

 

Brian

 

What is your proposal?

 

Chris

 

From: Brian Welch [mailto:bwelch@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:01 AM
To: Chris Cole; STDS-802-3-400G@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Sept Interim Meeting Material Posted

 

What technologies/integration are you assuming in these MUX/DEMUX figures? Conservative for one technology (ie, discrete thin film) may not be for another (ie, integrated SiP).

 

Brian

 

From: Chris Cole [mailto:chris.cole@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:15 PM
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Dear Task Force Participants,

 

Last week, the TF gave permission to update cole_3bs_02 to include TX and RX analog BW used in TDP calculations, which was requested during Q&A. The updated deck was posted last week.

http://www.ieee802.org/3/bs/public/14_09/cole_3bs_02b_0914.pdf#page=5 (pages 5 and 6)

 

On a separate topic, in this presentation, we use 2.5dB for 4:1 WDM Mux and 1:4 WDM DeMux loss, which is conservative. Other presentations use loss values of 1.5dB and 2.0dB. Since these values do not enter into normative specifications, normally there is no need for agreement. However, when making comparisons between different approaches, if the loss values are not the same, the results are not apples-to-apples.

 

To enable fair comparison of different results I would like to propose that we all use 2.0dB as the value for 4:1 Mux loss, and for 1:4 DeMux loss. This value was used by Alan Tipper in his analysis. This is neither conservative nor aggressive. Using this number in no way constrains implementations. When we adopt normative specifications, everyone is free to set their design and production targets as they please.

 

If we can agree on a consensus 4:1 Mux and DeMux loss value for use in analysis, I will update our optical specifications analysis to reflect it.

 

Thank you


Chris