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Re: [STDS-802-3-400G] IEEE P802.3bs 400 Gb/s Ethernet SMF Ad Hoc conference call draft agenda



Dear Ian, Winston, and Cole

Please excuse me to express my view.

As to the timing issues of Nyquist PAM signal, Ian pointed out,
there will be some countermeasures as you know, one of it is the
increase of the ADC sampling ratio a bit, for example to
1.1-sample-per-symbol (Ex: 64GSa/sec for 56GBaud Nyquist PAM4 with
the roll-off factor of 0.1). Such a small increase is sufficient to
cover all the Nyquist spectrum and will not cause significant
cost nor bandwidth issues.

I think that not only us, but other PAM4 vendors also have
solutions to their implementation issues.

Best regards,

Nobu

Nobuhiko Kikuchi,
Central Research Lab, Hitachi Ltd.
Yoshida-machi 292,
Totsuka, Kanagawa, 244-0817
TEL:    +81-50-3135-3104/3486
E-mail: nobuhiko.kikuchi.ca@xxxxxxxxxxx
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(2014/10/01 17:53), Dedic, Ian wrote:
Hi Winston

There is a penalty to be paid with restricted bandwidth PAM4 no matter
which approach is taken, and I believe this is one reason that our
experimental results show that 100G/lambda PAM4 does not perform as well
in practice compared to DMT as predicted by simplistic calculations,
especially given the bandwidth of real components such as ADC and DAC
and when clock jitter is taken into account.

If all the DSP is at the RX side (case 1), the vertical eye opening for
high-frequency data (01010101) is reduced since only low-frequency data
(00001111) fills the dynamic range of the ADC – in other words, the
constellation spacing in this case is smaller relative to the TIA/ADC
noise floor, and any equalisation then amplifies the noise as well as
signal – a DFE does not amplify noise but has many issues with actual
realisation at these data rates due to its recursive nature.

If all the equalisation is performed with DSP at the TX side then the
peaking can be quite large (depending on component bandwidth) and this
directly reduces the available transmit power into the fiber.

If Nyquist shaping is performed at the TX side then not only does this
carry a hardware penalty (digital power for shaping) but the horizontal
eye opening at the receiver is very small, which makes the system very
sensitive to jitter (e.g. on reference clock, internal PLL).

This is made worse by the fact that with one sample per symbol (used in
most/all PAM propositions to reduce power) the CDR phase estimation
(Mueller-Muller or similar) is very noisy so a lot of averaging (low
loop gain) is needed to reduce the jitter caused by this; the low
tracking loop bandwidth makes the phase noise requirements on the clock
path much harder to meet in practice without increasing power and/or
cost (this is the case for all 1-sample-per-symbol PAM4 systems).

These are all non-negligible real-life degradations which reduce the
performance or increase the power/cost of PAM4 compared to
oversimplified analyses; if we want to get an “apples-to-apples”
comparison with other proposals these cannot be ignored and must be
included when estimating system margins.

As far as I am aware, the only PAM4 systems these issues do not apply to
is ones where all the components have wide enough bandwidth that little
or no equalisation is required, and I don’t think anyone is suggesting
that this is achievable with low power and cost for 100G/lambda PAM4.

Cheers

Ian

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*From:*Winston Way [mailto:winston.way@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
*Sent:* 01 October 2014 01:08
*To:* IEEE_listserver
*Subject:* Re: [STDS-802-3-400G] IEEE P802.3bs 400 Gb/s Ethernet SMF Ad
Hoc conference call draft agenda

Chris,

There are three approaches in IEEE802.3bs contributions regarding
100Gb/s PAM4:

1.No DSP at the TX side, all DSP is at RX side.

2a.  DSP at the TX side, with a pre-equalization that is performing the
inverse function of the original end-to-end response.

2b.  DSP at the TX side, performing Nyquist shaping.

In case 1., there is no peaking due to the limited bandwidth of DAC,
driver amp, or EML, as shown in the two experiments below:

In case 2a, there is a peaking out of the driver amp, due to the
suppression of low-frequency components, as you have quoted; but that
peaking was smoothed out by the EML transfer function, as shown below:

In case 2b, Nyquist shaping clearly generates significant peaking mainly
at a small alpha factor (e.g., a ≤ 0.1), but not at a large alpha factor
(e.g., a=1.0). See diagrams below. Note that the jitter tolerance due to
a small alpha factor is very poor due to the much smaller eye width, as
can be seen in the left-most diagram, and therefore may not provide the
best performance even though it is more bandwidth efficient. Therefore,
using a small alpha and a strong peaking as examples, as shown in your
comparison analysis today, may not be quite appropriate.

So Nyquist shaping with a small alpha factor is just one of the multiple
100Gb/s PAM4 approaches, and should not be generalized to say that all
PAM4 modulations will generate peaking.  There are PAM4 approaches that
do not generate peaking, and it is not true that “in all cases there is
non-negligible peaking”.

Thanks,

Winston

*From:*Chris Cole [mailto:chris.cole@xxxxxxxxxxx]
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:17 AM
*To:* STDS-802-3-400G@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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*Subject:* Re: [STDS-802-3-400G] IEEE P802.3bs 400 Gb/s Ethernet SMF Ad
Hoc conference call draft agenda

On today’s SMF Ad Hoc conference call, during presentation of “Optical
Specifications of SMF PMDs Study” it was suggested that the only time
there is peaking in a PAM-4 waveform is when using the “Nyquist PAM-4”
approach.

Peaking is a function of TX bandwidth and pulse shaping. If TX is driven
by a DAC, then pulse shaping is limited by the DAC sampling rate and
analog bandwidth. In the case of the 100G/wavelength proposals in .bs,
even for “Broadband PAM-4”, the DAC imposes a severe limitation on pulse
shaping, and in all cases there is non-negligible peaking.

A clear example of peaking can be seen in “Single Wavelength over
112Gb/s PAM4 …” by Way and Chan, despite the obvious design preference
to have none.

http://www.ieee802.org/3/bs/public/14_09/way_3bs_01a_0914.pdf#page=6
(see 3^rd and 4^th images)

This peaking is unavoidable because of the DAC and Driver limitations
listed on the following pages.

A complete link budget has to account for reduction in TX OMA to manage
the clipping level due to component limitations. It is not acceptable to
ignore this penalty.

Chris

*From:*Anslow, Peter [mailto:panslow@xxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:[mailto:panslow@xxxxxxxxx]>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:53 AM
*To:* STDS-802-3-400G@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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*Subject:* [STDS-802-3-400G] IEEE P802.3bs 400 Gb/s Ethernet SMF Ad Hoc
conference call draft agenda

Hi,

As previously announced, there is an SMF Ad Hoc meeting starting at 7:30
am Pacific Today, Tuesday 30 September.

I have currently received two requests for presentations so the draft
agenda is:

Attendees names and affiliations will be taken from the Webex
participants list. If you attend via phone only, or if your employer and
affiliation are different, please send me an e-mail.

Discussion

·IEEE patent policy reminder

ohttp://www.ieee802.org/3/patent.html

·Approval of the agenda

·Approval of the draft minutes from 19 August 2014 call

·Presentations

oUpdated Considerations on 400Gb/s Ethernet SMF PMDs             Peter
Stassar, Huawei

oOptical Specifications of SMF PMDs
Study                                             Chris Cole, Finisar

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