Dear Colleagues,
Below is a set of quotes from Operators about the 400G >10km PMD requirements. Note the generic use of ER by Weiqiang Cheng, which highlights the need for “1” suffix for single lane PMD names, like ER1, so
there is no confusion between a generic and specific reference.
Following the quotes are updated
Select Optical Specifications Tables, reflecting correct re-entry into the statistics calculations of one of the receive sensitivity measurement sets (huang). Table 3 includes further tweaks to the
additional proposed changes to the submitted public comments.
Since I have received more questions on the use of statistics, Table 4 Data Statics is added listing the TX and RX parameters. It also includes histograms of the TX and RX data, and histograms of corresponding
Normal distributions as references to evaluate the fit. It is surprisingly good for such a small sample size.
Thank you
Chris
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Weiqiang Cheng, China Mobile:
Cost is really sensitive for 400GE ER. However, If possible, we hope 400GE ER can keep 40km capability so that we can share the same infrastructure with 100GE ER.
Junjie Li, China Telecom:
Beyond 10km, the use of grey optical interfaces is a very small corner case for China Telecom. Typically we prefer DWDM systems when the distance is longer than 10km.
Ralf-Peter Braun, DT:
It is more important to achieve significantly lower cost than hitting the 40km reach
Glenn Wellbrock, Verizon:
Verizon rarely uses gray interfaces outside the office except for “access” which is usually 20km or less due to its distribution networks. I seriously doubt this would change for 400G.
Sam Sambasivan, ATT:
25km is preferable, at the lowest possible cost.
Masahito Tomizawa, NTT:
Lower cost 30km IF (Interface) is preferred for NTT, if there is a large cost difference between 30km IF and 40km IF. If the cost difference is small, then 40km IF is better for NTT
because there are many 10G and 100G 40km IFs already installed in NTT's network. 400G 40km IF is the simplest replacement from 10G/100G 40km IF.
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Table 4. 802.3cn Data Statistics
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|
Description
|
median
|
average
|
sigma
|
min
|
max
|
units
|
|
TX OMA
Pre-Mux
|
8.5
|
8.5
|
0.4
|
8
|
9.2
|
dBm
|
|
RX Sens OMA
Post-DeMux
|
-19.5
|
-19.5
|
0.4
|
-20.2
|
-19.1
|
dBm
|
|
|
|
Sigma bin
|
-3 → -2
|
-2 → -1
|
-1 → 0
|
0 → 1
|
1 → 2
|
2 → 3
|
|
TX OMA bin count
|
0
|
1
|
4
|
3
|
2
|
0
|
|
TX Normal ref. count
|
0.2
|
1.4
|
3.4
|
3.4
|
1.4
|
0.2
|
|
RX Sens OMA bin count
|
0
|
3
|
5
|
5
|
3
|
0
|
|
RX Normal ref. count
|
0.3
|
2.2
|
5.5
|
5.5
|
2.2
|
0.3
|
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Table 1. P802.3cn draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications
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|
Transmitter Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
40
|
km
|
|
TDECQ
EML .3cu data
|
2
|
2
|
2.5
|
dB
|
|
Mux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA (max)
|
7.4
|
7.4
|
6.4
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min)
|
3.4
|
3.4
|
2.4
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min) margin
|
3.1
|
1.1
|
0.6
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
97.6
|
48.1
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Receiver
Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
40
|
km
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max)
SECQ = 1.4
|
-15.1
|
-15.1
|
-16.1
|
dBm
|
|
DeMux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max) margin
|
4.4
|
2.4
|
0.4
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
27.5
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TX OMA * RX Sens Yield
|
100.0
|
97.6
|
13.3
|
%
|
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Table 2. P802.3cn draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications with changes proposed in public comments
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|
Transmitter Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
30
|
km
|
|
TDECQ
EML .3cu data
|
2
|
2
|
2.5
|
dB
|
|
Mux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA (max)
|
7.4
|
5.2
|
4.2
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min)
|
3.4
|
1.2
|
0.2
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min) margin
|
3.1
|
3.3
|
2.8
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Receiver
Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
30
|
km
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max)
SECQ = 1.4
|
-15.1
|
-17.3
|
-15.3
|
dBm
|
|
DeMux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max) margin
|
4.4
|
0.2
|
1.2
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
23.0
|
99.4
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TX OMA * RX Sens Yield
|
100.0
|
23.0
|
99.4
|
%
|
|
Table 3. P802.3cn draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications with additional proposed changes
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|
Transmitter Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
30
|
km
|
|
TDECQ
EML .3cu data
|
2
|
2
|
2.5
|
dB
|
|
Mux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA (max)
|
6.5
|
6.5
|
5
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min)
|
2.5
|
2.5
|
1
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min) margin
|
4.0
|
2.0
|
2.0
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Receiver
Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
30
|
km
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max)
SECQ = 1.4
|
-16
|
-16
|
-14.5
|
dBm
|
|
DeMux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max) margin
|
3.5
|
1.5
|
2.0
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TX OMA * RX Sens Yield
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
%
|
From: Chris Cole
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 4:05 PM
To: STDS-802-3-B10K@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: STDS-802-3-100G-OPTX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [802.3_B10K] Dispersion Penalty Presentations
Dear Colleagues,
I have received a number of questions about the use of statistical data analysis to quantify the yield to a specification. This is just basic SPC (Statistical Process Control) developed by Shewhart and Deming in the ‘30s, and then popularized
by Deming, most famously in Japan in the ‘50s. A search on SPC will reveal a wealth of references. I suggest some brushing up on this prior to the 802.3cn Interim Teleconference which will be held Tuesday, Sept. 24, 10AM ET to discuss publicly submitted comments
against Draft 3.0; please see enclosed invite from the Chair.
The measurement data used to for the analysis is listed and summarized in Helen’s presentation: http://www.ieee802.org/3/cn/public/18_11/xu_3cn_02b_1118.pdf#page=4
It should be viewed as having an optimistic bias in predicting yield. Defective or low performance device data does not make it into presentations. In a proper data set, all devices would be counted, including defective ones.
Since SPC may not be intuitive to everyone, I added a Margin metric to each of the three tables below. This is the difference in dB between the TX OMA (min) and RX Sens OMA (max), and their corresponding measurement data averages. This
is what we typically use to qualitatively judge the robustness of a proposed spec. At this stage we typically like to see 3dB or margin. 2dB is OK, and 4dB is great. Below 1.5dB we start to be concerned, and below 1dB we have a problem. This is an incomplete
metric because it doesn’t factor in the distribution. Encouragingly the qualitative metric leads us to the some conclusions as the statistical yield metric.
Table 1 shows that ER8 transmitter and receiver specs. have little margin. This is consistent with what
Yamamoto-san and Yoshimatsu-san already showed at the Jan. 2018 meeting.
http://www.ieee802.org/3/B10K/public/18_01/yamamoto_b10k_01a_0118.pdf#page=8
They also showed that if we really want 40km, then we need some additional technique to make it feasible. They proposed the use of strong FEC. This can be considered in the future by Operators as a proprietary
spec. based on an IEEE 30km spec.
Table 3 shows that the ER8 specifications can be adjusted to have good margin. Notice that Table 3 also shows the limitation of this Margin metric. TX has lower margin even though it has higher yield than
RX. This is because the margin calculation doesn’t factor in that TX sigma is lower than RX sigma.
Thank you
Chris
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Table 1. P802.3cn draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications
|
|
Transmitter Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
40
|
km
|
|
TX-OMA (avg)
EML .3cu data
or lower if optimum
|
7.4
|
8.5
|
8.5
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (sigma)
EML .3cu data
|
0.4
|
0.4
|
0.4
|
dBm
|
|
TDECQ
EML .3cu data
|
2
|
2
|
2.5
|
dB
|
|
Mux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA (max)
|
7.4
|
7.4
|
6.4
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min)
|
3.4
|
3.4
|
2.4
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min) margin
|
3.1
|
1.1
|
0.6
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
97.6
|
48.1
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Receiver
Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
40
|
km
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max)
SECQ = 1.4
|
-15.1
|
-15.1
|
-16.1
|
dBm
|
|
DeMux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA (avg)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
|
-19.0
|
-19.7
|
-19.7
|
dBm
|
|
RX Sens OMA (sigma)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
|
0.8
|
0.8
|
0.8
|
dBm
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max) margin
|
4.6
|
2.6
|
0.6
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
99.8
|
14.1
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TX OMA * RX Sens Yield
|
100.0
|
97.3
|
6.8
|
%
|
|
Table 2. P802.3cn draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications with changes proposed in public comments
|
|
Transmitter Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
30
|
km
|
|
TX-OMA (avg)
EML .3cu data
or lower if optimum
|
7.4
|
7.2
|
7.7
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (sigma)
EML .3cu data
|
0.4
|
0.4
|
0.4
|
dBm
|
|
TDECQ
EML .3cu data
|
2
|
2
|
2.5
|
dB
|
|
Mux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA (max)
|
7.4
|
5.2
|
4.2
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min)
|
3.4
|
1.2
|
0.2
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min) margin
|
3.1
|
3.3
|
2.8
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
100.0
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Receiver
Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
30
|
km
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max)
SECQ = 1.4
|
-15.1
|
-17.3
|
-15.3
|
dBm
|
|
DeMux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA (avg)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
|
-19.0
|
-19.7
|
-19.7
|
dBm
|
|
RX Sens OMA (sigma)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
|
0.8
|
0.8
|
0.8
|
dBm
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max) margin
|
4.6
|
0.4
|
1.4
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
24.6
|
72.7
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TX OMA * RX Sens Yield
|
100.0
|
24.6
|
72.7
|
%
|
|
Table 3. P802.3cn draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications with additional proposed changes
|
|
Transmitter Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
30
|
km
|
|
TX-OMA (avg)
EML .3cu data
or lower if optimum
|
6.0
|
8.5
|
8.5
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (sigma)
EML .3cu data
|
0.4
|
0.4
|
0.4
|
dBm
|
|
TDECQ
EML .3cu data
|
2
|
2
|
2.5
|
dB
|
|
Mux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA (max)
|
6
|
7
|
5.4
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min)
|
2
|
3
|
1.4
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min) margin
|
4.5
|
1.5
|
1.6
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
99.9
|
99.9
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Receiver
Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
30
|
km
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max)
SECQ = 1.4
|
-16.5
|
-15.5
|
-14.1
|
dBm
|
|
DeMux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA (avg)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
|
-19.0
|
-19.7
|
-19.7
|
dBm
|
|
RX Sens OMA (sigma)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
|
0.8
|
0.8
|
0.8
|
dBm
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max) margin
|
3.2
|
2.2
|
2.6
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA Yield
|
99.9
|
98.8
|
99.5
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TX OMA * RX Sens Yield
|
99.9
|
98.7
|
99.4
|
%
|
Dear Colleagues,
I received several emails asking about the reasons for the proposed changes to Draft 3.0. The good news is that at least some people are reading my entire emails. The flip side is that their questions may be motivated by a suspicion that
the new values were pulled out of the air.
Table 1 below lists select draft D3.0 Transmitter and Receiver Optical Specifications. It also includes supporting data presented in 802.3cu, in yamamoto_b10k_01a_0118, yu_b10k_01c_0319, huang_b10k__01a_0918, and jackson_b10k_01_0918. The
transmitter section entries are the average and sigma of all reported EML TX OMA data. TX penalties are rough averages of the reported data. The receiver section entries are the average and sigma of all reported APD RX Sens data. These distributions are used
to calculate the yields of the transmitter and receiver due to TX OMA (min) and RX Sens OMA (max) limits, respectively.
Table 1 highlights in red the entries that are of concern. ER8 transmitter and receiver have unacceptable yields, resulting in a specification that is not manufacturable. During Task Force meetings, multiple participants raised this as
a serious concern. For example, yamamoto_b10k_01a_0118 shows that there is insufficient margin, and offers a remedy of a stronger FEC to increase margin by 1dB. These data driven concerns should not have been ignored.
Table 2 below lists draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications with changes proposed in the submitted public comments. ER8 transmitter and receiver have good margins, although the receiver yield needs improving. Unfortunately, the ER4 receiver
yield was severely degraded and an additional change is required to fix this.
Table 3 below lists draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications with additional proposed changes to address the concerns identified in Table 2. Additionally, there is a proposed reduction to ER1 TX OMA (min), which was not one of the publicly
submitted comments, although it was flagged as a concern in an earlier email. Use of high power EML for ER1 unnecessarily increases cost. Lower output power EML still results in high yield specifications. All the specification changes are highlighted in blue.
Thank you
Chris
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Table 1. P802.3cn draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications
|
|
Transmitter Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
40
|
km
|
|
TX-OMA (avg)
EML .3cu data
or lower if optimum
|
7.4
|
8.5
|
8.5
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (sigma)
EML .3cu data
|
0.4
|
0.4
|
0.4
|
dBm
|
|
TDECQ
EML .3cu data
|
2
|
2
|
2.5
|
dB
|
|
Mux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
TX OMA (max)
|
7.4
|
7.4
|
6.4
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA (min)
|
3.4
|
3.4
|
2.4
|
dBm
|
|
TX OMA Yield
|
100.0
|
97.7
|
49.2
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Receiver
Description
|
50GBASE-ER1
|
200GBASE-ER4
|
400GBASE-ER8
|
unit
|
|
Reach
|
40
|
40
|
40
|
km
|
|
RX Sens OMA (max)
SECQ = 1.4
|
-15.1
|
-15.1
|
-16.1
|
dBm
|
|
DeMux loss (max)
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
dB
|
|
RX Sens OMA (avg)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
|
-19.0
|
-19.7
|
-19.7
|
dBm
|
|
RX Sens OMA (sigma)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
|
0.8
|
0.8
|
0.8
|
dBm
|
|
RX Sens Yield
|
100.0
|
99.8
|
14.1
|
%
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TX OMA * RX Sens Yield
|
100.0
|
97.4
|
6.9
|
%
|
|
Table 2. P802.3cn draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications with changes proposed in public comments
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Transmitter Description
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50GBASE-ER1
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200GBASE-ER4
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400GBASE-ER8
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unit
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Reach
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40
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40
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30
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km
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TX-OMA (avg)
EML .3cu data
or lower if optimum
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7.4
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7.2
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7.7
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dBm
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TX OMA (sigma)
EML .3cu data
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0.4
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0.4
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0.4
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dBm
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TDECQ
EML .3cu data
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2
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2
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2.5
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dB
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Mux loss (max)
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0
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2
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3
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dB
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TX OMA (max)
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7.4
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5.2
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4.2
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dBm
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TX OMA (min)
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3.4
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1.2
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0.2
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dBm
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TX OMA Yield
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100.0
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100.0
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100.0
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%
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Receiver
Description
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50GBASE-ER1
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200GBASE-ER4
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400GBASE-ER8
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unit
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Reach
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40
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40
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30
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km
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RX Sens OMA (max)
SECQ = 1.4
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-15.1
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-17.3
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-15.3
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dBm
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DeMux loss (max)
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0
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2
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3
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dB
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RX Sens OMA (avg)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
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-19.0
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-19.7
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-19.7
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dBm
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RX Sens OMA (sigma)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
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0.8
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0.8
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0.8
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dBm
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RX Sens Yield
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100.0
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24.6
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72.7
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%
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TX OMA * RX Sens Yield
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100.0
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24.6
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72.7
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%
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Table 3. P802.3cn draft D3.0 Select Optical Specifications with additional proposed changes
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Transmitter Description
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50GBASE-ER1
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200GBASE-ER4
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400GBASE-ER8
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unit
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Reach
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40
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40
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30
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km
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TX-OMA (avg)
EML .3cu data
or lower if optimum
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6.0
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8.5
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8.5
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dBm
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TX OMA (sigma)
EML .3cu data
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0.4
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0.4
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0.4
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dBm
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TDECQ
EML .3cu data
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2
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2
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2.5
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dB
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Mux loss (max)
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0
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2
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3
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dB
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TX OMA (max)
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6
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7
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5.4
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dBm
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TX OMA (min)
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2
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3
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1.4
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dBm
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TX OMA Yield
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100.0
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99.9
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99.9
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%
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Receiver
Description
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50GBASE-ER1
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200GBASE-ER4
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400GBASE-ER8
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unit
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Reach
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40
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40
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30
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km
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RX Sens OMA (max)
SECQ = 1.4
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-16.5
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-15.5
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-14.1
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dBm
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DeMux loss (max)
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0
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2
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3
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dB
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RX Sens OMA (avg)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
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-19.0
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-19.7
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-19.7
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dBm
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RX Sens OMA (sigma)
SECQ = 1.4
APD .3cu data
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0.8
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0.8
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0.8
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dBm
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RX Sens Yield
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99.9
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98.8
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99.5
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%
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TX OMA * RX Sens Yield
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99.9
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98.7
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99.4
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%
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Dear Colleagues,
I have received several private emails correcting errors and making suggestions for clarifications, to my previous email.
Below is the corrected text, with the addition of IEEE Public Review Comments that have just been submitted on the IEEE Standards site. The deadline for comments is today, so if you have any, now is the time to submit them.
The following is an explanation of Chromatic Dispersion Penalty (CDP) scaling with reach and Baud rate, and interplay with transmitter chirp characteristics.
CDP is proportional to CD coefficient, link length, and Baud rate squared.
CDP ∝
CD * L * B2
Calculating the exact penalty is complex, however the CD * L * B2
term can be used for direct, relative comparisons, by defining it as a CDP Figure of Merit (CDP FM).
For convenience, 10km and 25Gbaud are used for normalization.
CDP FM = CD * (L/10) * (B/25)2
Table 1 below lists key transmitters specs. and CDP FM for various codes, with red highlighting concerns. The take away points are:
- 400GBASE-LR4 10km reach proposal had excessive CDP FM.
- 400GBASE-LR4 6km reach baseline has reasonable CDP FM.
- 400GBASE-ER8 40km reach baseline has excessive CDP FM for CD (min).
(Qualitative statement that 50G PAM4 “is a lot easier” than 100G PAM4 is not true at 40km. In fact the opposite it true; 400G ER8 40km (50G PAM4) is harder than 400G LR4 6km and 100G LR1 10km (both 100G PAM4).
)
- 400GBASE-ER8 30km reach proposal will have reasonable CDP FM.
- 200GBASE-ER4, 400GBASE-ER8 40km baselines have excessive TX OMA (min). 50GBASE-ER 40km baseline may have an excessive TX OMA (min).
(This is higher than previous TX OMA values (0.3 and 0.1 dBm for 40G ER4 and 100G ER4, respectively), and is higher than other codes in Table 1. It will significantly drive transmitter cost up by likely requiring
a TX amplifier. This undermines the Broad Market Potential, and is counter to the expressed need for low cost by Network Operators.)
- 200GBASE-ER4, 400GBASE-ER8 30km proposals will have reasonable TX OMA (min).
- 50GBASE-LR, 50GBASE-ER have not changed their suffixes to LR1 and ER1 to align with 802.3 convention established this year.
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TABLE 1
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~Baud Rate
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Reach
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TX OMA
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TX OMA – TDECQ
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TDECQ
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~CD
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CDP FM
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~CD
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CDP FM
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Codes
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each lane
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(max)
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each lane (min)
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each lane (min)
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(max)
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(min)
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for CD (min)
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(max)
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for CD (max)
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Gbaud
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km
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dBm
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dBm
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dB
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ps/nm-km
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normalized
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ps/nm-km
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normalized
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4WDM-40 (100G ER4f) (TDP not TDECQ)
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25
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40
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0.5
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-0.5
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3
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-3
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12
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1
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4
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50GBASE-LR
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25
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10
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-1.5
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-2.9
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3.2
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-2
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2
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1.5
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2
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50GBASE-ER
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25
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40
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3.4
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2
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3.2
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-2
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8
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1.5
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6
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100GBASE-LR1
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50
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10
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0.7
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-0.6
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3.4
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-2
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8
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1.5
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6
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200GBASE-LR4
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25
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10
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-0.4
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-1.7
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3.4
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-3
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3
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1
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1
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200GBASE-ER4
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25
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40
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3.4
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2
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3.2
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-3
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12
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1
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4
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400GBASE-LR8
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25
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10
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0.2
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-1.1
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3.1
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-5
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5
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1
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1
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400GBASE-ER8
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25
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30
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0.2
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-1.2
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3.4
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-5
|
15
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1
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3
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400GBASE-ER8
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25
|
40
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2.4
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1
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3.4
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-5
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20
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1
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4
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400GBASE-LR4
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50
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6
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0.2
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-1.1
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3.5
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-6
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14
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3
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7
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400GBASE-LR4
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50
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10
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0.2
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-1.1
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3.5
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-6
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24
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3
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12
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Table 2 and 3 below explains the dynamics of the review process that happened in 802.3cu and 802.3cn.
In 802.3cu the proponents showed favorable data for 400GBASE-LR4 10km using TX favorable to the proposal. The opponents showed unfavorable data using TX unfavorable to the proposal. Therefore, the Task Force had a complete data set for
its review of Technical Feasibility.
In 802.3cn the proponents showed favorable data for 400GBASE-ER8 40km using TX favorable to the proposal. No unfavorable data was shown because no other type of TX was used. Therefore, the Task Force had an incomplete data set for its review
of Technical Feasibility. And the missing data is exactly in the area of concern as identified by Chromatic Dispersion Penalty Figure of Merit analysis. Further, the data presented in 802.3cu for 400GBASE-LR4 10km, which has similar CDP FM for CD (min) to
400GBASE-ER8 40km was determined by the 802.3cu to have insufficient margin to be considered Technically Feasible. Therefore, 802.3cn has not established Technical Feasibility.
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TABLE 2
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EML TX
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EML TX
|
SiPIC TX
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802.3cu area of concern
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high positive chirp
|
moderate positive chirp
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no chirp
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CDP effect
for CD (max)
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big detriment
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moderately detriment
|
no detriment
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Proponent data brought in
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No
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Yes
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Yes
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Opponent data brought in
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Yes
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No
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No
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TABLE 3
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EML TX
|
EML TX
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SiPIC TX
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|
802.3cn area of concern
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high positive chirp
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moderate positive chirp
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no chirp
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CDP effect for
CD (min)
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big help
|
moderate help
|
no help
|
|
Proponent data brought in
|
Yes
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No
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No
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Opponent data brought in
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No
|
No
|
No
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802.3cn needs to go back and take more measurements to establish a complete data set to be in a position to determine Technical Feasibility.
Thank you
Chris
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Category
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Page
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Sub-clause
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Line #
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Comment
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Suggested Change
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General
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22
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45
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1
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50GBASE-FR, 50GBASE-LR, 50GBASE-ER need 1 suffix to be consistent with 802.3 convention, pages 22 to 27, lines 1 to 54 pn each page
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Change to 50GBASE-FR1, 50GBASE-LR1, 50GBASE-ER1 everywhere in the document
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Technical
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45
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122
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16
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400G ER8 can only support 30km, lines 16 to 18
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Keep 200GBASE-ER4 2 m to 30 km || 2 m to 40 kma, Change 400GBASE-ER8 to 2 m to 30 km only, make same changes everywhere else in the entire document
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Technical
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46
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122
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21
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Outer Optical Modulation Amplitude (OMAouter), each lane (min)b for 200GBASE-ER4 of 3.4 dBm it too high, lines 21 to 22
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Change Outer Optical Modulation Amplitude (OMAouter), each lane (min)b for 200GBASE-ER4 to 1.2 dBm
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Technical
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46
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122
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27
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Launch power in OMAouter minus TDECQ, each lane (min): for extinction ratio
> 4.5 dB for 200GBASE-ER4 of 2 dBm is too high, lines 27 to 28
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Change Launch power in OMAouter minus TDECQ, each lane (min): for extinction ratio
> 4.5 dB for 200GBASE-ER4 to -0.2 dBm, Change all other limits in this table consistent with the OAM (min) reduction by 2.2dB.
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Technical
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48
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122
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18
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TX OAM (min) reduced by 2.2dB in Table 122-9, lines 18 to 54
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Change all limits in this table consistent with the TX OAM (min) reduction by 2.2dB in Table 122-9
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Technical
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47
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122
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26
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Outer Optical Modulation Amplitude (OMAouter), each lane (min)b for 400GBASE-ER8 of 2.4 dBm is too high, lines 26 to 27
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Change Outer Optical Modulation Amplitude (OMAouter), each lane (min)b for 400GBASE-ER5 to 0.2 dBm
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Technical
|
47
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122
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32
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Launch power in OMAouter minus TDECQ, each lane (min): for extinction ratio > 4.5 dB for 200GBASE-ER4 of 1 dBm is to high, lines 32 to 33
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Change Launch power in OMAouter minus TDECQ, each lane (min): for extinction ratio
> 4.5 dB for 200GBASE-ER4 to -1.2 dBm, Change all other limits in this table consistent with the OAM (min) reduction by 2.2dB.
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Technical
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49
|
122
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10
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TX OAM (min) reduced by 2.2dB in Table 122-10, lines 10 to 54
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Change all limits in this table consistent with the TX OAM (min) reduction by 2.2dB in Table 122-10
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General
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73
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139
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1
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50GBASE-FR, 50GBASE-LR, 50GBASE-ER need 1 suffix to be consistent with 802.3 convention, pages 73 to 87, lines 1 to 54 on each page
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Change to 50GBASE-FR1, 50GBASE-LR1, 50GBASE-ER1 everywhere in the document
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