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Re: [802.3_RTPGE] Comment 288



Bryan - thanks for your effort and thoughts.

The reason we went for a test with an injected noise source on 10GBASE-T (and I would recommend something similar here) was:

1.       We wanted the test to be repeatable, and experience showed that coupling crosstalk from live cables did not result in repeatable levels from setup to setup (at least not without a lot of work)

2.       We wanted the test to be a receiver quality test, separating out the cabling characteristics.

 

1000BASE-T1 may be different in that it is likely used as an engineered (cable + phy) system, which may make the second reason more debatable, but I believe the first reason still stands.

PHY designers and system evaluators will want tests to be repeatable from one users configuration to the other.

 

(FYI – I have told Steve that I will be in the 802.3bp room after the break (around 10am) this morning for a little while)

 

George Zimmerman

Principal, CME Consulting

Experts in Advanced PHYsical Communications Technology

george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

310-920-3860

 

From: Moffitt, Bryan [mailto:BMoffitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:05 AM
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Subject: [802.3_RTPGE] Comment 288

 

On George Zimmerman's comment #288 97.5.4.2.1, my expectation of the bit error rate test is that it is performed in a defined alien test configuration so text as follows is suggested:

 

Differential signals received at the MDI that were transmitted from a remote transmitter and have passed through a link specified in 97.5.5 with alien crosstalk from other bundled links as outlined in Figures 97B-2 and 97B-3 are received with a BER...

 

However it may also need to include something about Table 97–13, and I'm not sure how that would fit in.

Bryan Moffitt

CommScope Systems Engineering