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RE: [10GBASE-CX4] comments on latest CX4 revision




Hi Clark,

I believe a lot of your questions would have been addressed
at our meetings. We have had numerous presentations with 
measurements of cable assemblies and devices where the first
thing that is done, is determine the impact of the connectors
and PC board, and other impairments on the measurement.

Nobody is claiming this is easy, that is not required. It is
necessary to ensure compliance that we have a transmitter that
meets an objective template, and a channel that meets a set of
objective specs, and a receiver that works when connected to
the two former items. Verification is required, but those of
us who have been working on this have spent a substantial 
amount of time doing just that.

The reason we spec'ed TP2 at the back side of the mated 
interface was specifically so that we could get a physical 
point as a reference plane. 

Regards,

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Clark Foley [mailto:clarkf@mxim.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:30 AM
To: 'ddprocurve@antelecom.net'; 'stds-802-3-10GBCX4@ieee.org'
Subject: RE: [10GBASE-CX4] comments on latest CX4 revision



Dan,

Has such a correction for impairments been demonstrated at 3.125Gb/s?

Clark

On Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:11 PM, ddprocurve@antelecom.net
[SMTP:ddprocurve@antelecom.net] wrote:
> 
> Hi Clark,
> 
> We discussed this and the conclusion was that there will be some
impairment
> caused by the fixturing (loss, etc) but that must be calibrated out by the
> user. We did not want to get into mandating how much loss, what kind of
> SMAs, etc. Rather, we spec the signal at the interface and rely upon the
> user to be able to make that measurement.
> 
> This is consistent with 1000BASE-T and other 802.3 technologies where the
> measurement requires some calibration by the user to compensate for probe
> effects.
> 
> Dan
> >
> >
> >54.7.3.6 Differential Output Template and Figure 54-3
> >The interconnect from the MDI to the scope for measuring against this 
> >template has not been adequately described.  I could not find any 
> >information on the plumbing.  A tight template like this one must be
> spec'd 
> >along with the interconnect hardware.
> >
> >Please consider readily available adapters and cables for this.  I
suggest
> 
> >that the test interface be comprised of a 1m, 24AWG cable to connect 
> >between the MDI and a GigaCN-to-SMA adapter board.  If you don't have one

> >of these boards yet, you will soon!  From the SMA to the scope, we can
use
> 
> >short, high quality cable.  This is easy and convenient.
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >Clark Foley
> >Maxim Integrated Products
> >(503) 547-2018
> >
> >