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Re: [BP] [bp] 802.3 approves Backplane Ethernet PAR



Yong,

My apologies for the delay in my reply.

First, if you would like a detailed account of closing plenary, I would refer you to the plenary meeting minutes, which will be available at:

http://ieee802.org/3/minutes/index.html

I have been told the minutes from the March plenary meeting will be posted later this week.

If you cannot wait for the minutes to be posted, you may also refer to the Backplane Ethernet closing plenary report, which you can find posted at:

http://ieee802.org/3/bladesg/public/mar04/closing_plenary_0304.pdf

In direct answer to your questions:

1.  "please consider for approval under continuous process"

Information on the continuous processing can be found at:

http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/contproc.html

To summarize, the next meeting of the New Standards Committee (NesCom) and the Standard Board is not until June.  Under the regular process this would be when our PAR is reviewed and the implication is that we would not meet as a Task Force until the July plenary, at the earliest.

Under continuous processing, e-mail and the web are used to expedite to process, giving us the chance of having our PAR approved in time for the May interim meeting.  The study group has requested to have the PAR forwarded to NesCom for review.  The addition of the "continuous processing" phrase simply expedites that process.

2.  Ammendments to Study Group Motions at the 802.3 closing plenary session.

There were three changes made via motions to amend, which I will enumerate below:

(a)  Change the objective "Support BER of 1E-12" to "Support BER of 10^-12 or better".
The motion to amend passed unanimously (voice vote).  This is superset of the original objective.  A solution that operates at exactly 1E-12 and a solution that operates at some BER below 1E-12 can both be considered to have satisfied this objective.  There was also some confusion regarding scientific notation.

(b)  Changes second bullet of Distinct Identity Criteria from "The standard will define a single PHY for each speed for operation" to "The standard will define at most one PHY for 1Gb/s operation and at most one PHY for 10Gb/s operation" .
The motion to amend passed unanimously (voice vote).  If I recall correctly, the intent of the amendment was to allow for the possibility of one PHY that supported both speeds.

(c)  The motion to form a new study group for congestion management/rate control was changed from "...for Layer 2 enhancements for congestion management for Backplane Ethernet" to "...for Layer to enhancements for congestion management including the needs of Backplane Ethernet".
Motion to amend passed Y:14,N:10,A:0.  The amended motion passed:  23/18/15.  Note that the motion to form a new study group is procedural, and only requires a simple majority to pass.  The needs of Backplane Ethernet are considered in either form of the motion case.  The amendment was made in the interest of not limiting the solution to be backplane-centric.


Thank you,
-Adam




-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [BP] [bp] 802.3 approves Backplane Ethernet PAR


Adam,

        2nd message.  I am still curious about what happened.
Would you enlighten me/us?  Thanks.


best regards,

Yong.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Yong Kim
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [BP] [bp] 802.3 approves Backplane Ethernet PAR


Adam,

        I am not clear on  how the words in parenthesis got there, i.e.
"(please consider for approval under continuous process)".  Also,
I had heard that some votes reversed study groups' votes that required
75% with mere 50% vote in 802.3.  Would you clarify what happened during
the backplane Ethernet agenda in .3 closing plenary?   Sorry, I had to
leave right before your agenda item to catch evening flight back.


best regards,

Yong.

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Technical Director      Mobile (408)464-6386
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San Jose, CA 95134      Main   (408)501-7800
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-----Original Message-----
From: Healey, Adam B (Adam) [mailto:ahealey@agere.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:04 PM
To: stds-802-3-blade@ieee.org
Subject: [bp] 802.3 approves Backplane Ethernet PAR



Colleagues,

I am pleased to report that 802.3 voted to approve the PAR and forward
it to the SEC and NesCom.  The motion:

802.3 WG approve the Backplane Ethernet PAR, as per par_0104.pdf, and
forward the PAR to the 802 SEC and NesCom for approval (please consider
for approval under continuous process).

TECHNICAL (75%)
Moved - A. Healey on behalf of the Study Group
Second - N/A
802.3 Voters (Y/N/A):  55/0/0
MOTION PASSES

Under continuous processing, there is a chance that our first Task Force
meeting will be in May.  Even if this does not occur, we will still be
meeting as a Study Group.  The meeting details are still being worked
out, but it will take place the week of May 24 in either Monterey or
Long Beach, CA.  Meeting details and a work plan will be posted as soon
as they are available.

Thank you all for the great work.

Adam Healey
Chair, Backplane Ethernet Study Group