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RE: [EFM] RE: OAM functionals




I think that I understand the operational requirements. What is not
clear is whether these need to be necessarily covered within the access
edge OAM. E in EFM is still for Ethernet - do other access protocols
provide for 'Facilities Alarms' within their remote OAM capabilities?
Should we mandate CPE chassis management capabilities? 

Regards,

Dan

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faye Ly [mailto:faye@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:46 PM
> To: Roy Bynum; ah_smith@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: stds-802-3-efm
> Subject: RE: [EFM] RE: OAM functionals
> 
> 
> 
> Roy,
> 
> Does facility alarm include:
> 
> 1. Chassis power supply status(in this case, CPE)
> 2. Fan present/status
> 
> Mechanical thing such as verifying if a box
> is fully closed is hard to implement.  Does 
> redundancy fault categorized as facility alarm
> also?  Thanks.
> 
> -faye
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Bynum [mailto:rabynum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:32 AM
> To: ah_smith@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: stds-802-3-efm
> Subject: [EFM] RE: OAM functionals
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> These were not rhetorical questions.  The issue of supporting far end 
> active systems, and possibly active intermediate systems at 
> "dark" sites
> 
> has been a handicap for those service providers that are 
> currently using
> 
> GbE for service delivery.
> 
> One of the presenters at the January 2001 meeting, John Moore, 
> http://www.ieee802.org/3/efm/public/jan01/moore_1_01_2001.pdf,
 made the 
comment that he had to do a truck roll just to verify that the box cover

was closed on the active demark system on the side of the customer's 
house.  This is the sort of thing that "Facilities Alarms" are for.
There 
are a lot of other things that simple "alarms" are needed for.  The
group 
as a whole needs to learn more about these types of issues that exist in
a 
service provider infrastructure, particularly at the very edge.

Thank you,
Roy Bynum

At 10:38 PM 9/24/01 -0700, Andrew Smith wrote:
>Roy,
>
>Assuming those weren't rhetorical questions - all I know on these
topics are
>what I learnt from the presentation materials submitted so far to this
group
>so: no, no, no and no.
>
>Looking forward to learning more,
>
>Andrew Smith
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roy Bynum [mailto:rabynum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:49 PM
>To: ah_smith@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: stds-802-3-efm
>Subject: OAM functionals
>
>
>Andrew,
>
>Lets start a new thread.
>
>I would like for others, perhaps you, to be able contribute to some of
the
>access edge OAM functional requirements.
>
>Do you know what "Facilities Alarms" are?  Do you know what they are
used
>for?  Do you know how they work?  Do you know why they might be needed
for
>EFM?
>
>Thank you,
>Roy Bynum