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Re: [802.3_DIALOG] New 'Higher Speed Ethernet Consensus' Industry Connections activity

Hi All,

I'm fully inline with comments from Pete and Mark, while certainly like to support this Industry Connections activity as with my colleague, Peter Stassar.

Kind regards,


Kai Cui, Ph.D
Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
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发件人: Peter Stassar
发送时间: 2012年6月26日 22:13
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Cc: Kai Cui
主题: Re: [802.3_DIALOG] New 'Higher Speed Ethernet Consensus' Industry Connections activity

Hi all,


I would like to express my full support for this IC activity in line with previous support messages from Pete Anslow and Mark Nowell.


Kind regards,




Peter Stassar

Technical Director

Huawei Technologies Ltd

European Research Center

Karspeldreef 4, 1101CJ Amsterdam

The Netherlands

Tel: +31 20 4300 832

Mob: +31 6 21146286


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I agree with Pete. We have been seeing growing interest from numerous network operators covering SP, MSO and Data Center spaces, to have clarity on when a next higher speed of Ethernet would be available.  Concern is that it will be available in time for their projected network needs. 


The sustained network bandwidth growth, driven largely by the increase in users and the increase in user consumption (such as  video) is challenging network's ability to scale.  Built into this need for a speed step is also the challenge of ensuring a cost effective solution. 


At the last interim meeting a number of interested people got together for an ad-hoc discussion around this topic.  At the close we took a straw poll to gauge interest in starting things moving towards a next HSSG project. Results indicated that there was strong interest in kicking this off.


In light of this, I support the


On Jun 26, 2012, at 7:01 AM, "Anslow, Peter" <panslow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


> John,

> Thanks for initiating this new 'Higher Speed Ethernet' Industry Connections activity.

> I have seen a tremendous amount of interest in higher rates of Ethernet at conferences and workshops since 802.3ba was completed, so I think that it is a good idea to start an activity within 802.3 aimed at gathering consensus on a way forward towards a future CFI on this topic.

> Regards,

> Pete Anslow | Senior Standards Advisor

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> Dear Colleagues,

> I have received a request from John D'Ambrosia to forward the following message to the IEEE 802.3 Working Group reflector. As the IEEE 802.3 Working Group reflector is for announcements only I have also CCed the IEEE 802.3 general discussion reflector. Please therefore direct all discussions to the IEEE 802.3 general discussion reflector <stds-802-3-dilaog@xxxxxxxx>

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> Best regards,

>   David

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> Dear Members of the IEEE 802.3 Working Group,

> Per the July Plenary Meeting Announcement, the Ethernet Bandwidth Assessment Ad Hoc will be seeking Working Group approval of its report. In addition, I will be working with Pete Anslow, Mark Nowell, Scott Kipp, and Peter Stassar to put on a tutorial at the July Plenary <See>.

> At the IEEE 802.3 May Interim I spoke at most of the Task Force and Study Group meetings (all but MIBs and Maintenance) regarding the future after the IEEE 802.3 BWA. I have been working with a group of approximately 60 individuals on a new 'Higher Speed Ethernet' Industry Connections activity.  The proposed scope of the activity would be to focus on building consensus related to the next speed of Ethernet for wireline applications, which will be used for the evaluation and possible development of a Call-For-Interest for the next Higher Speed Study Group. Please note that unlike the prior BWA activity, the output of this effort would be the historical records, i.e. meeting notes & presentations, of the meetings held by this Industry Connections activity.

> In the interest of full disclosure, an Industry Connections activity Initiation Document (ICAID) was submitted to the Industry Connections Committee (ICCom) for conditional approval, conditional on IEEE 802 EC endorsement in July, at its June 8th meeting. However, ICCom postponed recommending it approval until it has been endorsed by IEEE 802 EC (the sponsoring group), and it was indicated that ICCom will schedule a teleconference the Monday after the plenary, which could then be submitted for a 10 day standards board email ballot.

> Unfortunately, this will have an impact on the formative activities related to the anticipated first meeting of this new IC Activity, as well as the accompanying workshop, where the BWA findings and next steps can be discussed.

> The other option, which I have chosen to pursue, is to forward my request to the IEEE 802 EC for endorsement prior to the July Plenary. This will enable ICCom's approval recommendation sooner, as well as the final approval of the Standards Board.

> I had already requested time at the July opening agenda to give the IEEE 802.3 WG an update, but given the timing of things, wanted to send this email out, so that the members of the WG were aware of the status of my activities.

> Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

> Regards,

> John D'Ambrosia