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[802.3_DIALOG] November plenary: Additional IEEE 802 session on Local MAC Addressing and other updates

Dear Colleagues,

Please find below three updates in respect to the upcoming plenary meeting, as always if you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me.

Best regards,

Discussion session on IEEE P802c Local MAC Addressing draft PAR

An additional IEEE 802 session will be held on the evening of Monday 3rd November from 21:30 to 22:30 for discussion of the draft IEEE P802c Local Media Access Control (MAC) Addressing PAR. The primary issues include the use of the locally administered address space and privacy, the email below provides further details, and a thread on the subject on the IEEE 802 EC reflector starts at <>. Further to this email John D'Ambrosia has asked that anybody that plans to request presentation time contact him immediately, and that presentations in PDF format will have to be supplied to him by 17:00 CST. The PAR and CSD can be accessed as follows:


Tutorial sessions update

The start times of the tutorial sessions on Monday evening are now thirty minutes later than announced in my original November plenary meeting announcement, I would also like to remind you that the two tutorial sessions are IEEE 802.3 related, and I therefore encourage your attendance. Session #1 is now from 18:30 to 20:00 on the subject of Gigabit Ethernet over Plastic Optical Fibre (PoF), Session #2 is now from 20:00 to 21:30 providing an introduction to IEEE P802.3bn EPON Protocol over Coax (EPoC). Please see <> for more details.

Plenary online schedule link

It has been brought to my attention that the plenary online schedule link was linked to the September interim schedule which created some confusion. This has now being corrected and the actual online schedule will be posted as usual on the weekend prior to the plenary. As already announced IEEE 802.3 Task Force, Study Group, standing committee and any ad hoc meetings required will be scheduled between the opening and closing IEEE 802.3 meetings as illustrated in our typical schedule also found on our web site <>. The only exception will be the IEEE 802.3 Industry Connections Next Generation Ethernet Passive Optical Network (NG-EPON) Ad Hoc which will be meeting on the Sunday prior to the IEEE 802.3 Opening plenary.


From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephens, Adrian P
Sent: 22 October 2014 09:13
To: STDS-802-SEC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [802SEC] Discussion session on 802c, use of the "locally administered address space" and privacy

Dear 802 member,

There has been a fair amount of discussion in various 802-related email threads in the context of 802c, use of the "locally administered address space" and privacy.

As I understand it, 802c is proposing a means to allocate from the locally administered address space, in order to solve the matter of assigning MAC addresses to virtual machines.

There has been discussion of using randomised local MAC addresses as a means of preventing tracking/surveillance of devices that use a static MAC address. This is potentially a concern for 802 wireless devices that have a 48-bit MAC address.

At first sight these two requirements seem to compete for the use of the locally administered MAC addresses. Given the cross-WG interests here, and given that the 802 EC has to decide on approval of the 802c PAR on Friday of the November 802 session, a session will be held on Monday 3rd November, 2014 (in the vacant "tutorial #3" slot) at 9:30-10:30pm (Logistics and Agenda TBC by the 802 EC).

I suggest the purpose of this meeting is primarily technical one.  Below is a non-exclusive list of possible topics. Please indicate your intention to present,  plus title of your presentation to the 802 EC recording secretary, John D'Ambrosia at <john_dambrosia@xxxxxxxx>.

Possible topics:
  * Are randomized MAC addresses effective in any sense?   Are they necessary?
  * What size of address space is effective for randomization
  * What technical issue is 802c solving
  * What are the likely solutions for 802c
  * What are the rules governing the use of the locally administered address space
  * What are the current uses of the locally administered address space
  * Are the needs of 802c and MAC address privacy necessarily in conflict?