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Re: [802.3_EPOC] Exclusion Sub-band Question



Jorge, 

 

Even though it was not discussed (I think) at the meeting yesterday, I do not think that method #2 would come with infinite resolution. For practical reasons, one would need to have access to individual sub-carriers, but not more than that. This might be what you’re looking for … 

 

Marek

 

From: Salinger, Jorge [mailto:Jorge_Salinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 13:40
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.3_EPOC] Exclusion Sub-band Question

 

Steve,
Marek,

Thanks for the summaries and thoughts. 

As an operator, I think that the second option would be preferable since it provides almost complete configuration flexibility. However, today we are bound to 6 or 8 MHz channel plans with center frequencies following 1 of 3 frequency plans, so method #1 may not be too bad. I think it is probably more about the minimum exclusion zone (which if I understand correctly it would be 2 MHz in method #1 versus 1 sub-carrier in method #2) than about the way to describe it. 

But, I wonder about the implementation complexity of method #2. 

And, as an alternative to the lack of granularity of method #1, and the extreme granularity of method #2, could there be a method #3 that allows for the exclusion of individual sub-carriers somehow?

Also, could we have vendors' opinions on the implementation complexity of method #2 versus method #1?

Thanks!
Jorge 

 

From: Marek Hajduczenia [mailto:marek.hajduczenia@xxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 03:19 AM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: Re: [802.3_EPOC] Exclusion Sub-band Question 
 

Steve, 

 

Very good summary of the discussion. 

 

In my mind, both options are very similar, with the only two differences being the granularity of exclusion bands requested (fixed for method #1, arbitrary in method #2) and complexity of configuration (in method #1, we would list bands to be excluded, in method #2, we would list start/stop frequencies for exclusion bands). 

 

If full flexibility is really what we are after, I’d go with method #2, even though it might generate a bit more management traffic to configure CNU. However, it is more future proof and could save us the headache of working with different grids and granularities of channels. 

 

Marek

 

From: Shellhammer, Steve [mailto:sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 23:36
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [802.3_EPOC] Exclusion Sub-band Question

 

EPoC TF,

 

               On today’s RF Spectrum Ad Hoc call we discussed the Exclusion Sub-band Rules.  There are two approaches that we discussed and it was suggested that it would be good to get feedback from the larger group, including the MSOs, on this topic.  Here is a description of the two approaches that have been proposed.  If you have technical opinions on the advantages/disadvantages of the two approaches or you have a preference for one method, we would like to hear from you.

 

Method #1

·         Exclusion sub-bands are multiples of 2 MHz (e.g. 2, 4, 6, etc.) and are on a 1 MHz grid.

·         In this case one could configure 36 MHz exclusion sub-band on the lower channel edge and 36 MHz exclusion sub-band on the upper channel edge and get 120 MHz channel.  Then one could include a 2 MHz sub-band within the 120MHz to make room for a cable plant pilot.

 

Method #2

·         Exclusion sub-bands are specified with a start and stop index.

·         In this case one could configure a 31 MHz exclusion sub-band on the lower channel edge and a 22.5 MHz exclusion sub-band on the upper channel edge.  Then one could also include a 1.75 MHz exclusion sub-band within the channel to make room for a cable plant pilot.

 

Personal Opinion

·         In my opinion, Method #1 is potentially less complex to implement.

·         In my opinion, Method #2 provides more flexibility than Method #2

·         This seems to be a trade-off between complexity and flexibility

 

Comments?

 

Steve

 

 

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