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Re: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Burst Markers



Hi Raanan

Thanks for the email.  It is certainly possible to build and send MAPs as done in other standards.  This type of solution is far from the current Ethernet/EPON standard.  The PHY doesn't process the GATE frames in the current standard and there isn't burst information signaled from the MAC to the PHY. The GATEs are sent unicast with delay compensation in the start time.  It would challenging to have a PHY rewrite the frames and figure out the boundaries of the GATEs so it could construct the MAP.

While laser ON/OFF doesn't exist in EPoC, other burst overheads do exist.  I would like EPoC to have the same or less burst overhead than EPON so I use the laser on/off and sync time from EPON as a reference point for comparison.

In short, The MAP is an option for a new standard but it really isn't for an EPON over Coax.  I think the marker will be simple and allow full compatibility with the EPON standard and layering.

On the overhead, I think that it can be low based on discussions with our PHY team.  It could be just a few symbols in a small number of carriers.  We are working proposals on the details and are open to suggestions.  I think that the shortened last code word will be the largest burst overhead for EPoC.

Hope that helps
Ed



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On Feb 18, 2013, at 8:01 AM, "Raanan Ivry" <raanan.ivry@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:raanan.ivry@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Hi Ed,
In your presentation you suggested the use of Burst Markers.
There is another option: All the information (a full map)  about teh burst timing and frequencies can be sent in a Gate message by the CLT.

There are differences between EPON and EPoC which may permit such attitude:
1. Symbol size (EPoC) >> bit size (EPON)
2. There is no such thing as laser on/off time in EPoC
3. CLT-CNU synchronization is not a problem

We need to understand:
1. Why we need those Burst Markers
2. What  the penalty (overhead) we are going to pay  is.

Raanan



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