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Re: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy sub-task call



I do not think so . we are adding unnecessary levels of indirection without
any need 

 

From: Duane Remein [mailto:Duane.Remein@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, 28 June 2013 8:35 PM
To: Marek Hajduczenia; STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Duane Remein
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy
sub-task call

 

I think Sanjay has captured a definition nicely.

Best Regards,

Duane

 

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From: Marek Hajduczenia [mailto:marek.hajduczenia@xxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:49 AM
To: Duane Remein; STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy
sub-task call

 

Duane, 

 

My point is much simpler - if this new thing is essentially a grant, why not
use "grant" rather than create a new term for it ?

 

Marek

 

From: Duane Remein [mailto:Duane.Remein@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, 28 June 2013 3:22 PM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy
sub-task call

 

Marek,

I would welcome your input on how to make a less confusing definition. I
would have no problem replacing GATE with grant.

Best Regards,

Duane

 

FutureWei Technologies Inc.

duane.remein@xxxxxxxxxx

Director, Access R&D

919 418 4741

Raleigh, NC

 

From: Marek Hajduczenia [mailto:marek.hajduczenia@xxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:42 AM
To: Duane Remein; STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy
sub-task call

 

Duane, 

 

Such a definition is confusing at best - you seem to assume that we allocate
specific range of spectrum via GATE message, and we can do so only in time
domain. We also do have a term already in GATE - "grant" - and I am not sure
why we need to define yet another one to speak about apparently the very
same thing. 

 

Marek

 

From: Duane Remein [mailto:Duane.Remein@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013 10:38 PM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy
sub-task call

 

I agree we havn't a formal definition. I would purpose something like: "a
set of sub-carriers connected in time related in frequency, but not
necessarily contigeous in frequency, allocated by a single GATE message". 

 

Best Regards,

Duane

 

FutureWei Technologies Inc.

duane.remein@xxxxxxxxxx

Director, Access R&D

919 418 4741

Raleigh, NC

 

From: Avi Kliger [mailto:akliger@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:48 AM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy
sub-task call

 

In the joint upstream pilot contribution by QCOM+BRCM we described what we
called a RB. It wasn't a "formal" definition though.   

 

From: Marek Hajduczenia [mailto:marek.hajduczenia@xxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:46 AM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy
sub-task call

 

Thank you for confirmation, Syed, 

 

It is hard for me then to understand proposals towards such an undefined
entity .. Is anybody actually planning to define this term ?

 

Marek

 

From: Syed Rahman [mailto:Syed.R@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013 11:24 PM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy
sub-task call

 

Marek,

.         To the best of my knowledge, so far we have not decided on a
formal resource block definition.

.         There have been multiple presentations which talked about resource
blocks for different applications (pilots, burst markers, et cetra..)

.         Attached is one such presentation 

Thanks,

Syed

 

From: Marek Hajduczenia [mailto:marek.hajduczenia@xxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:45 PM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy
sub-task call

 

Dear colleagues, 

 

Have we ever really generated a consented definition of the whole "resource
block"? I have been looking through a number of contributions and it seems
that it is kind of give, yet I must have missed a formal definition of what
this really is. Could anybody point to where it was defined (if it was done
before) or try to come up with a consistent definition of what this is (at
best, relative to EPON for simpler comprehension) ?

 

Thank you in advance

 

Marek

 

From: Syed Rahman [mailto:Syed.R@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013 9:05 PM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-3-EPOC] Resoruce block presentation in todays phy
sub-task call

 

 

 

All,

Attached is the presentation I gave  in today's Phys sub-task force call.

Thanks,

Syed

 

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