Thread Links Date Links
Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index

Re: [802.3BA] 5 Criteria mod to support 40 G on SMF



Hong,

Do you have a study (studies) with solid data showing the distribution
of reaches across the entire industry that demonstrates that server and
data center(s) requirements are more then sufficiently met by a 1km to
2km reach? This would include other factors such additional connector
loss, etc.

Late last year HSSG solicited input from end users and your conclusion
was not broadly shared.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Hong Liu [mailto:hongliu@GOOGLE.COM] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:53 PM
To: STDS-802-3-HSSG@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802.3BA] 5 Criteria mod to support 40 G on SMF

Before we dive into the power budget and spreadsheet, we should probably
investigate the best balance of reach and cost for 40Gb/s SMF for server
market and computing applications.

Economically, it probably doesn't make sense to do 40Gb/s SMF at 10km
for
server and computing.  1km~2km should be more than sufficient.


Hong Liu
Google Inc.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Frazier [mailto:hfrazier@BROADCOM.COM] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:21 PM
To: STDS-802-3-HSSG@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802.3BA] 5 Criteria mod to support 40 G on SMF

Dear members of the IEEE 802.3ba Task Force,

I have reviewed our approved set of 5 Criteria responses

http://www.ieee802.org/3/ba/PAR/HSSG_5C_0707.pdf

looking for any material that will need to be changed in the event we
adopt
an objective to support 40 Gb/s operation on 10 km of single mode fiber.
In
my opinion, the responses will remain valid and complete, with one
exception.

On page 6 of the above referenced file, in our response to the Economic
Feasibility criterion, we state:

  Presentations indicate that for the server market and
  computing applications the optimized rate to provide
  the best balance of performance and cost is 40 Gb/s. 
  For the network aggregation market and core networking
  applications, the optimized rate offering the best
  balance of performance and cost is 100 Gb/s.

If we adopt a 40 Gb/s SMF objective, then this response should be
modified
along the lines of:

  Presentations indicate that for the server market,
  computing applications and some cost-sensitive
  aggregation applications, the optimized rate to provide
  the best balance of performance and cost is 40 Gb/s. 
  For the network aggregation market and core networking
  applications, the optimized rate offering the best
  balance of performance and cost is 100 Gb/s.

The change being the insertion of the words "some cost-sensitive
aggregation
applications" in the first sentence.

I think that our previously approved responses for Broad Market
Potential,
Compatibility, Distinct Identity, and Technical Feasibility will not
require
any change in the event that we adopt an objective for 40 Gb/s operation
on
SMF. I think that the proponents of the new objective will be able to
readily demonstrate this.

If you think I have over looked something else that might need to be
changed, please speak up, and please provide a proposed change.

Howard Frazier
Broadcom Corporation