RE: +++PROPOSED RULE CHANGE LETTER BALLOT
Paul, I voted no and sent my reply to the reflector as well as to Jim, so I
don't know why you didn't see it. I'm enclosing a copy of my original
reply, but in brief my reason for voting no was:
In the current rules, one kind of vote requires a 40 day letter ballot: "the
decision to submit a draft standard or a revised standard to the Sponsor
Ballot Group." (BTW, I think the "or a revised standard" is unnecessary
since the revised standard is a draft standard until it is approved.)
This rule change requires a 40 day letter ballot for deciding any draft
standard technical issues which it defines very broadly: "Draft standard
technical issues involve the draft standard as a whole or a specific part
thereof." The effect of this rule change would be to require many (even
most?) votes that we now do at meetings to be done by 40 day letter ballot.
I don't think this was ever our intent when we proposed the need for a rule
change to cover voting between meetings.
THIS RULE CHANGE DOES THINGS WAY BEYOND MY UNDERSTANDING OF ITS ORIGINAL
INTENT AND I URGE OTHERS TO VOTE NO UNTIL IT IS CORRECTED.
From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 9:35 AM
Subject: +++PROPOSED RULE CHANGE LETTER BALLOT
November 1 has passed and I have only seen votes/comments from Grow, Hayes,
Love and Marks. Perhaps you have sent your response to Jim Carlo--if so,
please forward a copy to Bill L. and myself.
Everybody else on the SEC: PLEASE VOTE!
Also, please remember Bill L. and I will hold a meeting Sunday evening
8-10PM, 11/7, to review the responses.
The following rule change was approved for LMSC ballot at the July Plenary
meeting. There has been some confusion on how to conduct this "paper ballot"
since it is being done via the WEB:
1) Please submit your rule change ballot comments to me at firstname.lastname@example.org. I
would like to receive these ballot comments by 1November.
2) Buzz, please distribute this rule change ballot to the IEEE 802 reflector
3) I will assume that Bill Lidinsky and Paul Nikolich will handle
consolidating the comments and hold an ad-hoc ballot resolution meeting at
the November Plenary meeting. Jim Carlo
At the SEC meeting in Montreal on Thursday 8July 1999 the SEC approved
submitting this IEEE 802 Operating Rules change to ballot.
The proposed Rules Change deals with changes to the process for voting
procedures for a Working Group on technical issues, procedural issues and
drafts between Plenary meetings. The changes involve the following
18.104.22.168 Chair's Function
22.214.171.124 Voting on Technical Issues
Attached is a pdf file showing the relevant clauses of the latest P802
Operating Rules (November 1998) with the changes indicated. Strikethrough
text is deleted. Underlined text is
added. All other text is as it exists in the curent rules document. This
text was presented and discussed at a P802 Operating Rules meeting on Sunday
night, 4 July 1999 in Montreal. This proposed rule change epresents the
output of this meeting.
The 802 rules URL is "http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/devdocs.html"
Jim Carlo(email@example.com) Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
Chair, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Telecom and Info Exchange Between Systems
Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
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