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RE: need help on 802 standard naming conventions




Jim-

It is not obvious that the "starting words are..."

In theory, 802 Standards are part of a family of standards. That is why 
they are not given a new number but continue under 802 ergo:

IEEE Standard for Local and Metropolitan Area Networks
Part3 -
Carrier Sense Multiple Access with
Collision Detection (CSMA/CD) access method
and physical layer specifications

is the name of the Ethernet Standard and the base name for which amendments 
are written and into which they get integrated.

i.e.:   "IEEE Standard for" (<- Common to all IEEE Standards)
         "Local and Metropolitan Area Networks" (<- This is IEEE 802)
         "Part3 -...(CSMA/CD)..."  (<- This is the "dot 3" part )
         "Amendment for whatever..."

Geoff


At 05:39 PM 10/5/00 -0500, Jim Carlo wrote:

>Let's add to Nov December. Roger, could you bring in proposal? Obviously the
>starting words are:
>
>How about:
>
>IEEE Standard for Broadband Wireless Access: Part x, ...??
>
>Jim Carlo(jcarlo@ti.com) Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
>TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
>Chair, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Telecom and Info Exchange Between Systems
>Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]On
>Behalf Of Roger B. Marks
>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:07 PM
>To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
>Subject: need help on 802 standard naming conventions
>
>
>
>Can someone help me understand the 802 naming convention for standards?
>
>802.3, 802.5, 802.9, and 802.11 follow this format:
>
>"Information technology--Telecommunications and information exchange
>between systems--Local and metropolitan area networks--Specific
>requirements--Part 3: Carrier sense multiple access with collision
>detection (CSMA/CD) access method and physical layer specifications"
>
>where only the part beginning "Part 3" changes for the other standards.
>
>On the other hand, 802.1F is simply "IEEE Standard for Local and
>Metropolitan Area Networks: Common Definitions and Procedures for
>IEEE 802 Management Information" and 802.10 is just "IEEE Standards
>for Local and Metropolitan Area Networks : Interoperable LAN/MAN
>Security (SILS)."
>
>In the case of 802.16.1, the Working Group approved simply "Air
>Interface for Fixed Broadband Wireless Access Systems," but, at the
>least minute, some SEC people said that wasn't acceptable and that we
>needed to adopt the 802 convention. We ended up with
>"Telecommunications and Information Exchange Between Systems -
>LAN/MAN Specific Requirements - Air Interface for Fixed Broadband
>Wireless Access Systems." I don't know who gave us the information,
>but it doesn't quite follow any format.
>
>Given my choice, I'd go back to the simple "Air Interface for Fixed
>Broadband Wireless Access Systems." If we make a PAR change, I'd like
>to revisit the title.
>
>Can someone explain what the long title does anyway? I suspect it is
>to fit some kind of ANSI or ISO/IEC convention. Since 802.16 is not
>planning any overlap with ANSI, ISO, or IEC, I think that we should
>be free of those constraints.
>
>Roger