Re: +++ IEEE 802 BALLOT: Approve $4K Funding for FCC to attend IEEE 802 meeting
Sorry Bob - I had difficulty parsing the sentence. Is what you are
suggesting that 802 should act as a neutral clearing house so that
companies that support FCC attendance can pay the cost of the FCC
attendees' travel? If so, the short answer is yes, this does open another
can of worms. Not clear to me that the govt and/or press would regard this
as any different from those companies sponsoring the FCC directly. I vote
No for that approach if that is what you have suggested. If it is
something different, please clarify.
Roger's arguments are very persuasive here - if we expect this organization
to develop standards on with International significance/participation, we
can't be seen to be offering favourable conditions to govt employees from
one country - and I'm absolutely sure we don't plan to make this open house
for all government employees from all countries that might have an interest
in a trip to the US.
At 10:38 14/02/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I vote No with the following conditions for changing my vote to a yes.
> If companies that support the FCC coming to the 802 meeting will pay the
>IEEE 802 funds to cover the travel, then the IEEE 802 should sponsor those
>Bob Grow, I don't know if this proposal is opening a whole new can of worms.
>Your comments on it would be appreciated.
>Robert D. Love
>Chair, Resilient Packet Ring Alliance
>President, LAN Connect Consultants
>7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Hayes, Vic (Vic)" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>To: "802.0 reflector" <email@example.com>; <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:04 AM
>Subject: RE: +++ IEEE 802 BALLOT: Approve $4K Funding for FCC to attend IEEE
> > Colleagues,
> > I do highly support this motion. My vote is "AFFIRM".
> > I have sympathy with the comments made so far that this looks like a tax.
> > However, I have learned that this is the only way to get the FCC staff to
> > pay visits to any place in the world. I can not change those rules before
> > the March meeting.
> > I am looking into the detailed rules from the Government. It seems to be
> > impossible to take up the bill as a company or a group of companies. I
> > asked a conversation with the FCC General Counsel to find out the details.
> > So far I understood they have to get the payment from the host.
> > The subject may seem arbitrary for people not involved in the regulations.
> > But let me tell you that we are in an extremely important phase of the
> > relevant to our devices. We have the opportunity to get first hand
> > information from the FCC and we can get detailed background information
> > relevant to actions we have to take.
> > I beg for your solidarity to the whole community you are in and trust that
> > you will vote (change your vote to) affirmation.
> > Thanks
> > ---------------
> > Vic Hayes
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> > > From: Jim Carlo[SMTP:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> > > Reply To: email@example.com
> > > Sent: 11 February 2001 12:38 PM
> > > To: IEEE802
> > > Subject: +++ IEEE 802 BALLOT: Approve $4K Funding for FCC to attend
> > > IEEE 802 meeting
> > >
> > >
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > SEC OFFICIAL EMAIL BALLOT 802.0/20Dec2000
> > > Issue Date: 20Dec2000 Closing Date: 4Jan2000
> > > Moved By: Vic Hayes Seconded By: Stuart Kerry
> > > Move: Authorize invitation to the FCC for March Plenary Meeting (and if
> > > not
> > > then in July), paying travel expenses up to $4K.
> > >
> > > Notes:
> > > I have had a number of discussions with some of you regarding inviting
> > > FCC to our IEEE 802 meeting so they can better understand the IEEE 802
> > > process and know us better. Note that the FCC person generally will not
> > > answer any technical or legal question. My hope is the FCC could better
> > > understand us and see our collective vision of where the future is
> > > in wireless. I was also going to see if the FCC attendee could give us a
> > > tutorial on Tuesday evening on how the FCC process works.
> > >
> > > In T1E1, we invite the FCC but T1 must pay for their travel expenses.
> > > is the same situation if we invite an FCC member to an IEEE 802 meeting.
> > > Note that an individual or company cannot pay for this, because of a
> > > perceived bias. Therefore, in the invitation to the FCC, I will need to
> > > specify that we cover travel expenses, say up to $4K.
> > >
> > > From Vic Hayes:
> > > At the last meeting, 802.11 passed the following motion:
> > >
> > > To request the SEC members to consider by email ballot, paying for
> > > and lodging for a representative of the FCC to attend the March meeting,
> > > and
> > > if approved, have the chairman of the
> > > 802.11 ad hoc regulatory group request that an FCC representative attend
> > > the
> > > March meeting.
> > > 22.214.171.124.1. Vote on the main motion - passes 29:5:2
> > >
> > > I just heard that my sponsor wants me to go to the ITU-R Joint
> > > Rapporteursgroup 8A-9B meeting rather than to Hilton Head for the IEEE
> > > meetings.
> > > I found Peter Murray willing to take the leadership.
> > >