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RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM and MOTION

I second this motion and request that the Chair initiate a vote when 
he is ready.

I think Bob is 100% correct that we need to stop chatting about the 
issue and start voting on it.


>Hmmm... So Howard was a volunteer for that job?  When I talked to Jim about
>the RS position, he told me that the CD-ROM was part of the job description!
>I was planning to produce it, but wanted to be sure it was something that
>the SEC wants to continue.  I guess the only real way to determine that is
>Moved: That the production of the annual 802 Standards CD-ROM be
>  -Bob O'Hara
>-----Original Message-----
>From: THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1) []
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:00 AM
>To: Rigsbee, Everett O; 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Geoff Thompson; Grow,
>Cc: Bob O'Hara;
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
>As I said before, the real cost is the volunteer time. It didn't sound like
>Howard was willing to do it this time. Do we have a volunteer?
>If not, perhaps a momento in honor of the Get IEEE 802 program would be a
>suitable thank you.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rigsbee, Everett O []
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:08 PM
>To: 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Geoff Thompson; Grow, Bob
>Cc: Bob O'Hara;
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
>OK, so that's a lot less than we spend on cookies for one meeting, and
>provides more in the way of lasting value.  Since it's our only tangible
>benefit for
>paying our meeting fees, I say we should keep it until the demand drops off.
>Right now our attendees are willing to stand in line in order to get one, I
>think we
>should oblige that desire.  It's a small "Thank-you" for all their efforts.
>Thanx,  Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing - SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
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>>  ----------
>>  From:	Grow, Bob[]
>>  Sent:	Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:43 AM
>>  To:	Mike Takefman; Geoff Thompson
>>  Cc:	Bob O'Hara; 802sec (E-mail)
>>  Subject:	RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
>>  Last year's cost must be buried in an invoice from Face to Face.  My
>>  recollection is that productions costs were about $2.5k.  I would expect
>>  costs to be somewhat higher this year because of increased number of
>>  From: Mike Takefman []
>>  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:52 AM
>>  To: Geoff Thompson
>>  Cc: Bob O'Hara; 802sec (E-mail)
>>  Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
>>  Bob, et al,
>>  Personally, I do not want to download stuff from GETIEEE and keep in on my
>>  hard drive. I like the CD ROM and would prefer that we keep it around.
>>  I will ask my members at our september meeting if they want to keep the
>>  CD program alive.  What is the cost of the CD program?
>>  mike
>>  > At 09:57 AM 8/21/01 -0700, Bob O'Hara wrote:
>>  > >With the Get IEEE 802 program, is it still necessary and/or desirable
>>  > >produce the 802 standards CD-ROM each year?
>>  > >Bob O'Hara
>>  > >Informed Technology, Inc.
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>>  > >WWW:
>>  Michael Takefman    
>>  Manager of Engineering,       Cisco Systems
>>  Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
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