Re: [802SEC] Re: IEEE Standards and Certification
It appears that NCC (here in Manchester, UK - I worked for them ~6 years
ago) have been contracted by IEEE ISTO to conduct this study - basically,
to sound out opinion on certification in relation to IEEE standards. I had
a conversation with Jane Pink at NCC this morning - amongst other things, I
impressed on her that it would be a smart move for Chris Weston to follow
up his email with a clear statement of what the relationship between NCC &
IEEE ISTO is, and to make it clear that his words "On behalf of the
IEEE..." were not meant to imply anything more than that.
I have given Jane Pink your Email address and phone numbers, and suggested
she calls you to discuss the study.
At 17:57 29/11/2001 -0500, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>Can anyone shed any light on the motives behind The NCC Group's
>certification objectives? Is there any relationship of this activity to any
>activities within the IEEE?
> > Chris,
> > The questions you ask are not related to our function as "an active IEEE
> > Working Group Member".
> > They are rather looking at whether the company that sponsors us is
> > in marketing products that are conforming to IEEE standards and whether
> > sponsor uses the name of IEEE in their documentation.
> > I am asking you to perform the acid test to the IEEE code of Ethics.
> > Especially the following:
> > 2. to avoid real or perceived conflicts of interest whenever possible, and
> > to disclose them to affected parties when they do exist;
> > 3. to be honest and realistic in stating claims or estimates based on
> > available data;
> > Thank you very much!
> > ---------------
> > Vic Hayes
> > Agere Systems Nederland B.V., formerly Lucent Technologies
> > Zadelstede 1-10
> > 3431 JZ Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
> > Phone: +31 30 609 7528 (Time Zone UTC + 2)
> > FAX: +31 30 609 7498
> > e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
> > http://www.orinocowireless.com/
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chris weston [mailto:email@example.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:43 PM
> > To: firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org;
> > email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org;
> > email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com;
> > firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org;
> > email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com;
> > firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org;
> > email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com;
> > firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com
> > Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org
> > Subject: IEEE Standards and Certification
> > Dear Sir/Madam,
> > On behalf of The IEEE (and NCC Group in the UK) I am conducting a
> > Certification Study on IEEE Standards.
> > As an IEEE Working Group Member the IEEE is very interested to hear your
> > thoughts on IEEE Standards and the potential for Certification. In the
> > week I have spoken with many of the IEEE Working Group members.
> > I have attempted to contact you by telephone this week, however I have
> > unsuccessful. Thus I have detailed a few short questions below which you
> > can if you wish reply to. Upon completion I promise to relay all
> > results back to you in a month/six weeks time.
> > I would be very appreciative if you could return this email with any brief
> > answers you wish to give. I will attempt to contact you by telephone again
> > before the deadline of Friday (am) of this week. Should you have any
> > questions regarding this email, or the authenticity of this study please
> > find my contact details and The NCC Group's URL listed below.
> > Your quick response to this email would be most helpful.
> > Regards,
> > Chris Weston
> > 1. Which IEEE standards does your organisation/ you contribute to?
> > 2. Does your organisation build products to these standards? which ones?
> > 3. Does your organisation use the IEEE name in your marketing/technical
> > information about the product(s)?
> > 4. Do you use the IEEE name in your technical information about the
> > product(s)?
> > 5. Does the use of the IEEE name in relation to your product(s) add
> > 6. Does it concern you that some organisations may use the IEEE name in
> > relation to products that do not meet the requirements of the standard,
> > possibly devaluing your product(s)?
> > 7. Do you believe that a certification program to provide some level of
> > testing and certification of products in the area you work in would be of
> > value?
> > 8. Would you support the production of a recognised test suite/ test tool
> > be used for the purposes of testing?
> > 9. Would you accept the IEEE as a suitable organisation to be a
> > certification authority?
> > 10. What output would you like to see from a certification program? e.g. A
> > certificate? Use of a logo? A Test/Certification Report? Other?
> > Many thanks for your assistance, I look forward to passing the results
> > to you.
> > Kind Regards,
> > Chris Weston
> > Research Department
> > The NCC Group
> > Manchester Technology Centre
> > Manchester
> > M1 - 7ED
> > United Kingdom
> > Direct: +00 (44) 161 - 242 - 2133
> > Main: +00 (44) 161 - 242 - 2200
> > www.nccglobal.com