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Re: [802SEC] Notes from Wed Mar 20 meeting with SA staff and BoG

I agree that it is good to have the situation restored - i.e., for the BoG 
to honour their agreement with us, but I wouldn't consider that in itself 
to be great progress.  Great progress would be for them to agree to 
continue the program on the current (or preferably, a better) basis for 
another 2 years.

Under item 2), I hope our negotiators don't lose sight of the fact that 
last year's *actual* revenue shortfall was significantly smaller than 802'1 
contribution, and that at present, we are only talking about *projected* 
numbers for 2002 (802's contribution exceeded the loss of sales for books & 
PDF by 80% if I recall correctly).  The actual numbers for this year may 
well be beneficially affected by future events - such as the number of 
people that will choose to update their copy of the 802.3 doorstop (or 
should it be doorstops, plural, now?) in the coming months.


At 18:15 21/03/2002 -0700, Roger B. Marks wrote:

>Great note! Great progress!
>Thanks, guys!
>>Dear 802 Executive Committee,
>>Last night Geoff Thompson, Howard Frazier and myself had a very productive
>>meeting with members of the SA Staff (Judy Gorman, Jerry Walker, Karen Rupp
>>and others) and representatives from the BoG (Dick Holleman and Jim Carlo)
>>to discuss the 3 motions we made last week on the Get802 program, Trademarks
>>and Certification.
>>As a result of the meeting the following items were agreed:
>>1) SA staff has agreed and Dick Holleman has obtained agreement (pending
>>confirmation from all BoG members via email by April 5th) from Ben Johnson,
>>President of the BoG, restore the Get802 to it orignal agreed upon terms
>>(pay period = 6 months after publication) until May 15, 2002.
>>2) SA staff will actively work with 802 to develop alternatives to make up
>>for the apparent reduction in print in PDF revenue that has resulted because
>>of the Get802 program.  Initially Jerry Walker, Geoff Thompson, Howard
>>Frazier and Paul Nikolich will be the focal points for this work.  It will
>>begin via teleconference Tuesday March 26 at 2pm EST.
>>3) Geoff Thompson will be the 802 Point of Contact to work with SA Staff
>>(person TBD) to give 802 perspective/recommendations on Trademark Policy.
>>4) Paul Nikolich will be the 802 Point of Contact to work with the SA Staff
>>(person TBD) to give the 802 perspective/recommendations on Certification
>>5) SA staff and the BoG invited 802 to continue to work closely with them
>>via an "advisory group" consisting of a 2-3 members from each organization.
>>6) The BoG accepted 802's invitation to co-locate the BoG and 802 meetings
>>at the July plenary.  The BoG most likely will meet Th/Fri/Sat.  Logistics
>>to be worked out between BoG and 802 meeting planners.
>>This meeting has set the stage for 802, SA staff and BoG to closely
>>collaborate in order to reach our common goals of making high quality
>>standards available to the public in a timely, cost effective manner.  Now
>>we have to execute on this objective--there is much work to be done.
>>Thanks to all that participated.
>>--Paul Nikolich
>>Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Project
>>cell:    857.205.0050
>>mail:   18 Bishops Lane, Lynnfield, MA 01940