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RE: [802SEC] Corrected Ballot Results: +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++ Release of 802 funds for Get802 program

The escrow amount was estimated at $74,625 in the closing Treasurer report.
It won't change much when attendance is finalized.  Folding that number in
with attendance projections, the budgetary numbers recently supplied to
Jerry are a total of $200,250 for 2002 and $168,750 for 2003.

--Bob Grow

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger B. Marks []
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Corrected Ballot Results: +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++
Release of 802 funds for Get802 program

I don't have the attendance figures for St. Louis, but I seem to 
recall a number around 900. That means that the funds under 
consideration in this motion amounted to around $70K (at $75 a head). 
Not chump change, but not $200K either.

Otherwise, I agree with Howard. As I said in my Disapprove vote, "I 
think we ought to table this motion until the end of the month so we 
can review the proposal." I'd also like to see the "Get IEEE 802" 
program succeed, and I am open to adjustments in accordance with the 
original plan for a yearly review.


At 11:27 PM -0700 02/04/17, Howard Frazier wrote:
>I hate to be a nuisance, but I suggest that we all take a
>deep breath and realize that we are talking about an
>expenditure of ~$200,000, which ain't chump change.
>I thank Paul for restating the tally, and I prefer this
>outcome to that which was previously announced, but may
>I respectfully submit that the correct action is to defer
>this decision until we have had more time to collect facts,
>negotiate, and debate.
>This is a very important program, and it involves a whole
>lot of work, and a whole lot of money. I want to see it
>succeed.  I hope that my earlier message was not
>misinterpretted by the staff personel who are members of
>this reflector. I am not trying to tank the Get802 program.
>I do believe that now is not the time to commit our funds.
>Paul Nikolich wrote:
>>  Dear SEC,
>>  I made an error on the tally for the below SEC Email ballot.
>>  The updated tally is as follows:
>>  01 Geoff Thompson             APP
>>  02 Buzz Rigsbee DIS
>>  03 Bob O'Hara               APP
>>  04 Bill Quackenbush           APP
>>  05 Tony Jeffree DIS
>>  06 Bob Grow                         APP
>>  07 Stuart Kerry DIS
>>  08 Bob Heile                  APP
>>  09 Roger Marks    DIS
>>  10 Mike Takefman  DIS
>>  11 Carl Stevenson       DIS
>>                  total:-6-       -0-     -5-     -0-
>>                    DIS   DNV   APP   ABS
>>  6 APPROVES required to PASS.
>>  Ballot FAILS (5APP, 6DIS, 0DNV, 0ABS)
>>  Regards,
>>  --Paul Nikolich
>>  Chair IEEE 802
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From:
>>  []On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
>>  Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:16 PM
>>  To: 'IEEE802'
>>  Subject: [802SEC] +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++ Release of 802 funds for
>>  Get802 program (closes Apr 16 2002)
>>  Dear SEC,
>>  We have a proposed motion with a mover and a seconder.  We have had
>>  discussion.  We have had votes.  BUT the chair has not put the question
to a
>>  formal email vote....until NOW.
>>  This is an SEC email ballot on making a determination on the below SEC
>>  motion to release 802 funds for the Get802 program, moved by Bill
>>  Quackenbush, seconded by Bob Grow.
>>  The email ballot opens on Tuesday April 9 9PM EDT and closes Tuesday
>>  16 9PM EDT.
>>  ------------
>>  Motion: (Bill Quackenbush moves, Bob Grow seconds)
>>  Now that the IEEE-SA has reinstated the Get802 program according to
>  > the original agreement with IEEE 802, 802 funds for the Get802 program
>  > were escrowed at the March SEC meetings are hereby released from escrow
>  > for payment to the IEEE-SA according to the terms of the Get 802
>>  agreement.
>>  ------------
>>  Please direct your responses to the SEC reflector.  (Note: any votes you
>>  think you cast on this item prior to this email have not been official
>>  you must re-vote)
>>  Regards,
>>  --Paul Nikolich
>>  Chair 802