Re: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Defining times for Opening and Closing SEC Meetings
I vote "Approve".
At 12:00 29/05/2002 -0600, Roger B. Marks wrote:
>I vote "Disapprove", with the following comments:
>The proposed time of the Closing SEC Meeting is too late. The change will
>extend the SEC member's responsibility by 18 hours each meeting; due to
>travel limitations, this will, in effect, be a 24 hour extension. This
>extra responsibility will seriously limit the pool of potential SEC candidates.
>Perhaps more importantly, the delay will limit the access of observers to
>the SEC process. Regular 802 participants will find it difficult to
>justify saying over another night to observe. Furthermore, given that 802
>Plenary Sessions are virtually always in the US, non-US participants will
>have an extremely long trip if they wish to attend the SEC as observers.
>The same is true of SEC members, of course, which means that this change
>will strongly limit our ability to expand our contingent of non-US SEC members.
>The 802.16 Working Group has taken a strong stance on this issue,
>approving unanimously in its Closing Plenary (24 May 2002) the following
>motion: "To urge that SEC meetings be concluded by noon on Friday of each
>802 Plenary week in order to ensure that SEC meetings remain open in
>practice as well as in theory."
>I suggest that the rules change be modified to provide that the Closing
>SEC Meeting be held from 8 am until noon on Friday. I see the following
>*SEC members and observers could go home on Friday afternoon.
>*This schedule would reduce or eliminate the possibility of WGs holding
>the closing meetings just before the SEC meeting. WGs would have time to
>get their work in order.
>*This schedule would accommodate WGs that need more time than is allowed
>by the Thursday night SEC meeting. WGs could, if necessary, hold their
>closing plenaries on Thursday night. For example, 802.16 has decided to do
>so in July.
>*A Friday afternoon SEC meeting would provide only about four hours more
>WG time than a Friday morning SEC meeting. Most of this could be recovered
>on Thursday night, if groups aren't already putting that time to use.
>*Groups that need more time can and should adjust their starting times
>appropriately. Sunday is available if necessary.
>*Another possibility to which I am open is to move the SEC Opening Meeting
>to Sunday night and scheduling the 802 Opening Plenary for 8-9 am Monday.
>This would let the WGs get started at 9 am Monday morning. Other WGs, at
>their option, could still start later. This earlier SEC start would entail
>an additional burden for SEC members. However, for most, it doesn't entail
>any extra nights away from home.
>At 4:52 PM -0500 02/03/17, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>>Scope: Rules Change to set the Plenary Session opening and closing SEC
>>Purpose: To give Working Groups more meeting time by moving the closing SEC
>>meeting to Friday and to eliminate confusion surrounding the times of the
>>opening and closing SEC meetings.
>>At the March 2001 Plenary Session Howard Frazier proposed making the times
>>of the opening and closing SEC meetings during plenary sessions flexible'
>>with respect to absolute start times. He proposed a rules change which Paul
>>Nikolich was to have initiated. The rules change process was never started,
>>resulting in the closing SEC meeting times being set in an ad-hoc manner
>>(March, Fri 8-12PM; July, Fri 3-7PM; November, Fri 3-7PM; March 02, Friday
>>The ballot opens March 18, 2002 and closes June 8, 2002 12 midnight EDT
>>(remember if you do not vote or abstain it is equivalent to a DISAPPROVE
>>vote). Buzz, please ensure this gets sent to the 802-wide email list as
>>well. WG chairs, please invite your WG members to comment through you.