Re: [802SEC] LMSC Rules Change Distribution and Ballot
(1) With regard to the rule change ballot relating to retention of voting
rights. I disapprove this change for the following reasons:
(a) The wording of the retention rule is not stated clearly; namely, it
does not state which interim meeting(s) may be considered for
substitution. Actually, this is also a fault in the original wording too,
which should be fixed in any event; as currently worded, the text could
be taken to mean any interim meeting(s) in the whole of the period of
attendance of the voter concerned, which is no doubt not the
intent. Is the intent to include the two most recent interims, or
the one or two interims that fall between the earlier of the two
plenaries and the current date, or what?
(b) In the case of my own working group, application of this rule would
result in some of my current voting members, who attend regularly but at
a lower frequency than this rule would require, losing voting membership
from time to time for no particularly good reason (I have run the numbers
on this - it would affect about 25% of our current voters, all of whom
are otherwise good contributors to the WG - responding to ballots,
(c) I have yet to hear a convincing argument for why this change is
necessary. I hear the words in the justification that state that it is
hard to get a quorum at an interim meeting; however, not having ever
taken part in an interim meeting that needed a quorum in order to conduct
its work, I am still none the wiser as to the real need here.
My own action, should this change be approved, will be to use my
perogative as Chair to give voting rights to all 802.1 participants whose
attendance falls within the old criteria and who wish to maintain their
(2) With regard to the ballot on the proposed TAG rule changes, I
At 20:30 13/09/2002 -0700, Geoff Thompson wrote:
This is a distribution of proposed changes to the 802 (LMSC) Operating
Rules to participants in IEEE Project 802.
This also constitutes initiation of an 30 day ballot of the Exec (SEC) on
the same material
Working Group Chairs and other members of the Exec need to cast their
vote by close of ballot which is midnight (Pacific Time) October 13.
Sufficient time should be allowed before casting your ballot so that your
constituency can provide you feedback to consider in formulating your
position. [WG Chairs, please redistribute this to your WG lists and
invite your WG members to comment through you.]
[Also, please note that the closing date that Vice-Chair Mat Sherman set
on the procedure for electronic balloting was incorrectly set at 60 days
(10/28/02) after mailing. It is hereby reset to October 13 as
If comments are received, a comment resolution meeting will be held on
Sunday evening immediately preceding the Plenary Week in Kauai.
A brief description of the changes are listed below:
The text of each of the proposed changes are attached to this
- 1) A modification
to 18.104.22.168 rules regarding membership retention requirements to
more accurately reflect the profile of our active membership. (ref:
- 2) A set of changes
to support the addition of the Radio Regulatory TAG to our organization.
As a member of IEEE Project 802 you are encouraged to carefully review
the proposed rule changes and ask questions of, or forward any comments
to, a representative on the LMSC SEC well before the closure of the SEC
ballot. SEC members will carefully consider your comments and
suggestions as part of the balloting process.
1st Vice Chair, IEEE 802 LMSC
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