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FW: [802SEC] Ballot periods


I got to wondering about the typical duration of recircs in IEEE-SA, 
so I took a look at the data from 2002 
<>. I found this:

Total Recircs      103
   8+ days or less    0
   9+ days           54
  10+ days or less   65
  15+ days or less   74
  20+ days or less   82

The "+" sign means that there is an extra fraction of a day. For 
example, a recirc that opens on the 1st and closes at the end of the 
10th is 9+ days.

Personally, I would be happy to support an LMSC rules change to 
specify a minimum of 10 full (24-hour) days for Sponsor Ballot 


>This is to inform you that I intend to propose a rules change to 
>enforce minimum ballot periods for our Sponsor ballots.  I also 
>intend to raise the issue of ballot periods to ProCom for all SA 
>ballots.  It is now clear to me that the ballot center does not 
>enforce any particular ballot period.  (I also can't find any 
>rules/P&P that requires them to enforce any arbitrary minimum.)  I 
>believe the ballot center operates to a default -- the ballot being 
>open for some period of time on 10 dates in the US eastern time zone 
>(probably restricted by the announcement being sent during their 
>working hours).  In an exchange trying to determine how the ballot 
>center counted "days", I postulate what I thought was a theoretical 
>question asking if the period would be have to be 10 days (i.e., 10 
>* 24 hours) or only 10 calendar dates.  At the time the question was 
>posed, I thought the ballot center was enforcing a minimum ballot 
>period  what I got in response was an offer for a SB recirculation 
>period a day shorter (i.e., days).
>I just received a particularly onerous example of what is being 
>allowed by the ballot center.  I received the announcement slightly 
>before noon Pacific Time.  The ballot closes on February 2 at 11:59 
>pm EST. 
>So, for me, I have 9.375 days to respond (and four of those days are 
>on a weekend).  For many international participants, they 
>realistically will have much less time with this ballot (many won't 
>see the announcement until their Monday morning).  If one or two of 
>you would like to review my proposed rules change text prior to 
>distribution to the SEC I would appreciate a response.
>Bob Grow
>Chair, IEEE 802.3 Working Group