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RE: [802SEC] Deadbeat rule change proposal


My point here is that the current situation is:
Plenaries and the operation of 802 are current funded, by practice and rule, by the fees that participants pay to attend plenaries.

Interims are funded by means other than tapping the 802 treasury (with the exception of use of 802 capital equipment)

I find no mandate to change that situation in the project that Bill has taken on to tighten up the wording on deadbeats.

I have no desire to change the current situation in that regard, actually more than that. I am opposed to changing the (1+n) approach to a single pot approach.


At 02:32 PM 3/4/2003 -0800, Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:

Geoff,  I think in this context that Bill is referring to 802-hosted interim meetings (such as the January 802.3/.1 meeting).  In this case the Treasurer does collect the fees on behalf of IEEE 802.  Non-802-hosted interims would be the exception to this rule. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson []
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:46 AM
To: Bill Quackenbush
Cc: IEEE 802 SEC
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Deadbeat rule change proposal



I have some general problems with your proposal.

RE the original form of the phrase:
The LMSC Treasurer may collect fees from all attendees of any meeting held in conjunction with the a Plenary or Interim session to cover the expenses of operating the LAN MAN Standards Committee.
...probably needs to be updated from "may" to "shall".

Either way, I don't think the modification for interims belongs here in the current context.

It is not the job of the LMSC Treasurer to collect fees from an Interim session to cover the expenses of operating the LAN MAN Standards Committee.

Rather, LMSC Treasurer through the conference organizer may collect fees from all attendees of an interim meeting to cover the expenses of the interim meeting.

If we go with the currently proposed text then we are signing up for all sorts of grief about whose interims are supporting plenary operation and whose are not.

Also, I am a little unhappy about a policy that is so completely rigid and has no provision for input from the affected WG Chair.


At 04:35 PM 3/3/2003 -0800, Bill Quackenbush wrote:


Attached is my first draft of the proposed deadbeat rule changes.

I have put the new material in a new section so that it applies equally
to any LMSC standards development group meeting.

Your comments are encouraged.