RE: [802SEC] Re: Wireless LCD Projectors for use at July plenary at HR-SF
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- Subject: RE: [802SEC] Re: Wireless LCD Projectors for use at July plenary at HR-SF
- From: Geoff Thompson <email@example.com>
- Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 17:25:28 -0700
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I don't think I agree with you. I am more in Howard's camp. We have more
than enough to do in most of 802 meetings that I sit in without doing
on-line debugging of tools.
On the other hand, if someone has experience within their own organization
using such a tool and can bring it in ready to use, then let's go for it.
At 05:19 PM 7/1/2003 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
>So I'll add one more opinion to the pile. I think it is important that
>we try new things and see how they work, especially if they are our own
>technologies. If we won't buy it, who will?
>I can see value for a projector with a wireless interface - where a guy
>in the back of the room can quickly display their objection on the
>screen, or where you might even be able to briefly split the screen
>between two inputs for comparison. But frankly, I am perplexed by the
>software and control issues - another reason why I want to try it so I
>can see first hand if it works or not.
>Another area of personal concern for me is whether the RF environment in
>our meetings can hack it. I'm already not very happy with the
>performance we get out of our current WLAN without a video load.
>802.11e (QoS) is not out yet. So, I can't wait to see what happens when
>we add a video load in with our existing loads. Will the WLAN be able
>to handle the load? Will other traffic in the area impact the quality
>of the video on the projector?
>I view IEEE 802 not just as a standards development organization, but a
>as a potential test bed for our own technologies. Actually, I wish we
>did more testing and evaluation of the network we run here. The one
>thing I will caution is I'm not sure myself if an investment in the
>projector will be worth while, so don't buy more than one. I think it
>is worth buying one though just to find out if it is worth while.
>Vice Chair, IEEE 802
>Communications Technology Research
>AT&T Labs - Shannon Laboratory
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>From: Howard Frazier [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:08 PM
>To: Rigsbee, Everett O
>Cc: email@example.com; 802 @F2F Dawn S; firstname.lastname@example.org;
>802 @F2F Jennifer Hull; 802 Bob Heile; Bob O'Hara; Paul Nikolich
>(E-mail); 802 Roger B. Marks; 802 Stuart J. Kerry; Tim Godfrey; 802. 11
>Al Petrick (802-11 Al Petrick); Don Berry; 802 Exec; email@example.com
>Subject: [802SEC] Re: Wireless LCD Projectors for use at July plenary at
>Personally, I would not pay extra $ for a projector
>with a wireless interface. Based on bitter experience,
>I never add software or hardware to my laptop while I
>am traveling, so I loathe the idea of having to add
>some new driver for this interface.
>The time required to connect a cable to a projector
>is minimal. Time is occasionally wasted when a
>presenter can't figure out how to toggle between
>their laptop's LCD and the external monitor interface,
>or when this simple action produces a "Microsoft Moment".
>I can't see where adding a couple of layers of complexity
>will improve the situation. For large, busy groups that
>need to save time, the best technique is to load all
>of the presentation materials onto one laptop, thus
>avoiding the need to switch connections.
>In the five years that we have been buying projectors,
>I have learned that "bells and whistles" like cameras
>are pretty much useless. I would put a wireless interface
>into the same category. It's just one more thing that
>can break, requiring a potentially costly repair, and
>taking a projector out of service.
>Let's please stick with simple, durable, bright,
>high-resolution DLP projectors with minimal bells and whistles.
>Howard (Yes, I'm a Luddite, and proud of it) Frazier
>Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
> > FYI- I just happened to stumble across the Epson 735c Wireless LCD
>Projector (see attached specification sheet) and thought this might just
>be the thing for our future meetings, but wondered if anyone has had any
>experience with this unit, and has opinions on its suitability for use
>at IEEE 802 plenaries and interims.
> > It seems to be price competitive with the regular wired units, and
>might allow a lot more flexibility in sharing an LCD projector amongst
> > Input and opinions on this notion are encouraged.
> > I'm working on seeing if we can get a couple of these units to use in
>SF for evaluation purposes. Any support for this from our Epson folks
>would be seriously appreciated. :-)
> > Thanx, Buzz
> > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing - SSG
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