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RE: [802SEC] +++EC Motion+++ Motion to Confirm Denis Kuwahara as Vice-chair of 802.18--(open July30-close Aug 29th)



Mat-

The implication to me (again, only working from the material presented) is that appointment indicates a private arrangement between the chair and the appointee. An election implies that there was a public call for nominations, of which there may only have been one.

Perhaps I am splitting hairs...

But then, it is me.

Geoff

At 05:29 PM 7/30/2003 -0400, mjsherman@research.att.com wrote:

Geoff,

Out of curiosity, if only one person is interested in a position is there really a distinction between an election and a confirmation?  I view an election with only one candidate as a confirmation.  Perhaps I am splitting hairs but&.

Carl,

Did you have a call for interested parties concerning this position?  Was anyone except Denis interested?

Thanks,

Mat

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-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:15 PM
To: Paul Nikolich
Cc: IEEE802
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Motion+++ Motion to Confirm Denis Kuwahara as Vice-chair of 802.18--(open July30-close Aug 29th)

 

DISAPPROVE

Unless 802.18 has its own approved procedures in place that contradict the 802 procedures I feel that I am forced to vote against this motion.

Carl said:

> As Chair of 802.18, I appointed Denis to the position of Vice-chair,

> and the membership of 802.18 unanimously affirmed that appointment.

Our procedures say:

5.1.2 Chair

LMSC Working Group Chairs and Vice Chairs shall be elected by the Working Group and

confirmed by the LMSC Executive Committee.

By my read of what has been put before me "appointed by the chair and affirmed by the membership" is not the same or even equivalent to "elected by the Working Group"

This is no reflection whatsoever on Denis whom I would have been delighted to vote to confirm had his placement been done according to procedure.

If I am mistaken please point me to chapter and verse.

Geoff



At 11:26 AM 7/30/2003 -0400, Paul Nikolich wrote:

Reply-To: "Paul Nikolich" <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@att.net>
To: "IEEE802" <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:26:16 -0400
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Motion+++ 
        Motion to Confirm Denis Kuwahara as Vice-chair of 802.18--
        (open July30-close Aug 29th)

Dear SEC members,

This is a 30 day SEC email ballot to make a determination by SEC motion to
confirm Denis Kuwahara as vice-chair of 802.18.  See the specific motion
wording below.

Moved by Carl Stevenson
Seconded by Stuart Kerry

The email ballot opens on Wednesday July 30th noon EDT and closes Friday
August 29th NOON EDT.

Please direct your responses to the SEC reflector with a CC directly to me
(p.nikolich@ieee.org).

Regards,

- Paul Nikolich

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)" <carlstevenson@agere.com>
To: "802 SEC Reflector (E-mail)" <stds-802-SEC@ieee.org>
Cc: "802. 18 Reflector (E-mail)" <stds-802-18@ieee.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:48 PM
Subject: [802SEC] Motion to Confirm Denis Kuwahara as Vice-chair of 802.18


>
> Moved:  Stevenson
> 2nd: Kerry
>
> To confirm Denis Kuwahara as Vice-chair of the IEEE 802.18 Radio
> Regulatory Technical Advisory Group.
>
> Information to Executive Committee Members:
>
> Denis has been an extremely active member of the 802.18 RR-TAG
> since its inception, and has been extremely helpful to the Chair,
> acting, in effect, as Vice-chair/Secretary "pro-tem" ... helping keep
> attendance, taking minutes, etc., greatly reducing the burden on
> me and helping the group to have effective, efficient meetings.
>
> Denis was also very active in the Regulatory Ad Hoc group that
> preceded the formation of 802.18, and has, thus, been a valued
> contributor for quite some time.
>
> As Chair of 802.18, I appointed Denis to the position of Vice-chair,
> and the membership of 802.18 unanimously affirmed that appointment.
>
> Thus, I urge the IEEE 802 Executive Committee to confirm Denis as
> the Vice-chair of 802.18.
>
> Paul, or designate, please initiate an Executive Committee e-mail ballot
> on this motion at your earliest convenience.
>
> Regards,
> Carl R. Stevenson
> Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group
> 610-965-8799 (home office)
> 610-712-3217 (fax mailbox)
> 610-570-6168 (cellphone)
> Short Message Service: 6105706168@voicestream.net
> carl.stevenson@ieee.org
>
>