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Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++ Ballot on Precedence




Mat,

And two other things.

	4) I find it rather curious that the IEEE BoD resolutions are lower in
precedence than the IEEE Bylaws and IEEE Policies and Procedures
(actually, this document is entitled the IEEE Policies, not Policies and
Procedures), but the IEEE-SA Bylaws are lower in precedence than the
IEEE-SA Operations Manual and the IEEE-SA BoG resolutions.  I find it
very difficult to believe that this is the correct order of precedence
for IEEE-SA documents.  Please check the ordering.

	5) Then there is the question of where to check to determine if the
order of precedence of these documents has changed and whether documents
have been added or removed from this list.  The source(s) of this
ordering needs to be stated.

Thanks,

wlq

Bill Quackenbush wrote:
> 
> Mat,
> 
> I vote DISAPPROVE.
> 
> While I agree with the intent of this proposed revision, I have a number
> of problems with the proposed text.
> 
>         1) It is obvious from the list of documents under which the LMSC
> operates that the LMSC has an organization relationship with at least
> three entities, the IEEE, the IEEE-SA and the Computer Society.
> However, the is no indication in text or Figure of Section 1 of the
> relationship between the LMSC, the IEEE and the IEEE-SA and there is no
> indication of the relationship between the Computer Society, the IEEE
> and the IEEE-SA.  It is my understanding that the relationship is not a
> strict linear hierarchy and I request that these relationships be added
> to the text and Figure of section 1.  Such information seems quite
> appropriate for an "Overview" section.
> 
>         2) One of the documents under which the LMSC operates is the "IEEE
> Financial Operations Manual" (FOM).  This document is missing from the
> list and needs to be added.  I suspect that it should follow the IEEE
> Polices, but you need to check on that.
> 
>         3) I think that the paragraph immediately preceding the list of
> documents would be clearer and more accurate if changed to the following.
> 
>         "The operation of the LMSC is subject to regulations contained in a
> number of documents including these Policies and Procedures.  The
> regulating documents are identified in the following list and are listed
> in their order of precedence from highest to lowest.  If any two
> documents in this list give conflicting regulations, the conflict shall
> be resolved in favor of the document of higher precedence.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> wlq
> 
> > mjsherman@research.att.com wrote:
> >
> > Dear EC members,
> >
> >
> >
> > Attached you will find the text for an EC Policies and Procedures
> > revision ballot on Precedence.  This letter ballot was approved at the
> > Friday, July 25, 2003 plenary session.  The scope and purpose of the
> > changes being balloted are as given in the attached ballot document.
> >
> >
> >
> > The ballot opens today  September 2, 2003 and closes October 2, 2003
> > at 11:59 PM Eastern Time (Daylight or Standard as applicable).
> > (Remember if you do not vote or abstain it is equivalent to a
> > DISAPPROVE vote).  Buzz, please ensure this gets sent to the "802ALL"
> > email list as well.  WG chairs, if you haven't already done so, please
> > invite your WG members to comment through you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Matthew Sherman
> > Vice Chair, IEEE 802
> > Technology Consultant
> > Communications Technology Research
> > AT&T Labs - Shannon Laboratory
> > Room B255, Building 103
> > 180 Park Avenue
> > P.O. Box 971
> > Florham Park, NJ 07932-0971
> > Phone: +1 (973) 236-6925
> > Fax: +1 (973) 360-5877
> > EMAIL: mjsherman@att.com
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                        Name: 802.0-Precedence_P&P_Revision_Balloted_r0.pdf
> >                                                        Type: Adobe Portable Document Format
> >    802.0-Precedence_P&P_Revision_Balloted_r0.pdf             (application/pdf)
> >                                                    Encoding: base64
> >                                                 Description: 802.0-Precedence_P&P_Revision_Balloted_r0.pdf