Re: [802SEC] Draft update for LMSC P&P as of 7/25/03
Re: The appeals process
Every attempt should be made to resolve concerns informally, since it
is recognized that a formal appeals process has a tendency to negatively,
and sometimes permanently, affect the goodwill and cooperative
relationships between and among persons.
It isn't "that a formal appeals process has a tendency to
negatively, and sometimes permanently, affect...goodwill"
- 3.7 Appeal and complaint process
It isn't the process that affects goodwill.
It is either the "appeal" or the "exercise of the appeals
process" that does the deed.
- There is no parallel requirement that the appellee brief be copied to
I don't know what this means. does it mean that the entire EC is the
appeals panel or does it mean that the entire EC considers whether to
kick it up to the SAB or ???
- If the parties to the appeal cannot agree on an appeals panel within
a reasonable amount of time, the whole matter shall be referred to the
full EC for Consideration.
This should be pretty straight-forward. There should be a standing list
of people in the appeals pool and any time there is a threat of an appeal
"somebody" (who?) should cross off the disqualified members of
Also, it doesn't say how the chair of the panel is chosen. That needs to
I can think of 2 reasonable possibilities
party that is acceptable to each side
b) That it
is the right of the EC Chair to choose.
The rules contained in the current edition of Robertís Rules of Order
Newly Revised (latest edition) shall apply to questions of parliamentary
procedure for the hearing not covered herein.
The appeals panel chair shall consult rules contained in the current
edition of Robertís Rules of Order Newly Revised (latest edition) for
questions of parliamentary procedure for the hearing not covered
....with reasons there for,
....with reasons therefore,
and also a/b/c makes no mention of disposition of whatever requests were
made for remedial action.
6) re: 3.7.7
There seems to be no requirement that if there is a request for a
rehearing that there be some rationale required to justify the
At 11:05 PM 10/12/2003 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Hi Everyone,Matthew Sherman
Sorry things have taken so long but I ve been otherwise occupied
Attached please find a draft of the LMSC P&P which includes all
revisions approved as of 7/25/03. It is redlined to highlight the
changes. Please feel free to examine it and identify any errors in the
editing you may find to me. I plan to release the final version of
this document in about 2 weeks.
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