RE: [802SEC] Final CD-ROM content
For 802.3 the current number is far larger than 3
A draft under consideration must be compared against (at least):
Other drafts in any sort of advanced development should be looked at too.
Other WGs may not be quite as bad but it is a significant problem.
At 04:00 PM 10/13/2003 -0600, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
>I agree very much with what Geoff said. We have just been balloting
>additions to IEEE 802.3 which operate on text originally from 802.3 with
>changes from 802.3ae (which hasn't been integrated yet into an edition).
>It is significantly extra work to have to be comparing between the three
>documents all the time. Once the consolidated edition is available, we
>should make it available to our voters.
>From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:email@example.com]
>Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:28 PM
>To: Bob O'Hara
>Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org;
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Final CD-ROM content
>I have a big problem with this.
>All of the ISO/IEC version of 802 Standards have always been distributed in
>the past. They have always been a joint publication. The issue of something
>being an ISO standard but only an IEEE "edition" has never been an issue or
>Also, 802 voters should not be burdened with the extra work of flipping
>back and forth between multiple documents when referring to the current
>standard in order to formulate their ballot comments.
>The work that they do on responsible review of our drafts is already
>onerous enough. Both by virtue of the size of the drafts and the size of
>the established standards that they have to judge for technical integration.
>Bottom line, I think this is a bad idea in that (1) it takes away something
>we had in the past and (2) is counterproductive to good standards development.
>At 01:55 PM 10/13/2003 -0700, Bob O'Hara wrote:
> >After discussion with Jerry and Yvette, I have revised the content of
> >the CD-ROM to contain only IEEE versions of documents, since IEEE does
> >not have the right to allow us to redistribute the ISO/IEC documents. I
> >have also removed the "editions" of the 802.1Q and 802.11-1999
> >documents, since these are not approved standards and the agreement with
> >802 is only for chairs and editors to have these documents without
> >purchasing them.
> >Please review the content of the CD-ROM, below. Get back in touch with
> >me before close of business today, Pacific Daylight Time, if there is
> >something missing from the list. I will be burning the master CD-R
> >tonight and sending it to be reproduced tomorrow. This is your last
> >Also, my apologies to Roger. I did receive updated information for the
> >CD-ROM for 802.16 and did not mention it in my earlier email.
> > -Bob
> >Bob O'Hara
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> >The list:
> >802-Stds\OPRULES\802 overview 2002r1.pdf
> >802-Stds\DOT_11\802_11_FILES\dot11mib with 11a 11b and 11d.txt