RE: [802SEC] Update on the motion to operate under a pending rules change.
I agree that any chair may require a roll call vote whenever they feel it
I believe that the issue that was put before us is when one or more
members of the voting body feel it is appropriate and the chair does
It makes me sad that a chair would refuse such a request.
I understand that my particular view of this might not be appropriate in
some groups where who may vote is controlled more carefully than in
At 11:30 AM 11/17/2003 -0800, Bob O'Hara wrote:
agree with Paul on this matter. However since our P&P allow a
chair to decide all procedural matters, any chair may ask for a roll call
vote at any time they feel it is appropriate.
On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:25 AM
Subject: [802SEC] Update on the motion to operate under a pending
Dear EC members,
The motion to operate under the pending rules change on Roll Call
Votes was 7 approve, 5 disapprove, 1 abstain.
The LMSC bylaws require a least a 2/3 majority of all EC members to
approve a rules change for submission to ballot and for adoption.
The EC has 13 members with voting rights. Greater than 2/3 of the
EC members is at least 9. In my haste to conclude the meeting, I
didn't apply this rationale, but upon reflection, it is my judgement that
motions regarding the adoption of a rule (regardless if they are
permanent or temporary) must require at least 2/3 majority.
Therefore, the motion to operate under the pending rules change on roll
call votes did not pass as it did not achieve at least a 2/3