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Re: [802SEC] +++EC Motion+++ P802.3ah conditional approval



Colleagues-

Please read Procedure 10 carefully BEFORE you vote.
Procedure 10 was specifically put in place to bring consistency to the conditional approval process.

My vote is DISAPPROVE

My primary rationale:
The requirements of Procedure 10 have NOT been met.
Specifically (extracted verbatim from procedure 10):
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Motions requesting conditional approval to forward where the prior ballot has closed shall be accompanied by:
Date the ballot closed [GOT: 2.1 closed 3-Nov per slide 2]
Vote tally including Approve, Disapprove and Abstain votes
        [GOT: Buried in table slide 2, 92/18/6
Comments that support the remaining disapprove votes and Working Group responses.
        [GOT: Unsatisfied requirement, further comments below.]
Schedule for confirmation ballot and resolution
        [GOT: Unsatisfied requirement, further comments below.]
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RE: Remaining Disapproves:
802.3 has not provided a concise summary of the "remaining disapprove votes and Working Group responses" to you in this motion package per the "shall be accompanied by" requirement. Rather they have merely provided a pointer to:
"Complete comment databases from these two ballots are available at: http://www.ieee802.org/3/efm/public/comments/."
This does not meet the requirement
This has the effect of masking the extent to which consensus has or has not been met.
The fact that there are (slide 3) "65 unresolved Technical Required (negative) comments" really means that there are too many comments to be reviewed during an EC motion. ["Seeking conditional approval is only appropriate when ballot resolution efforts have been substantially completed..."] This issue has been ducked by not meeting the requirement and exposing the dissenting votes. It is my belief that this project, at this point in the process, is an inappropriate stretch of the intention of Procedure 10.

RE: Schedule for confirmation ballot:
I don't understand why the required specifics have not been provided instead of the generalities provided below. The schedule for recirc is known as the ballot has already been opened. There seems to me no meeting scheduled for resolution of comments. I assert that this is a requirement of this procedure.

Sincerely,

Geoff


At 11:56 AM 11/21/2003 -0500, Paul Nikolich wrote:
Dear SEC members,

This is a 10 day SEC email ballot to make a determination by EC motion to conditionally approve P802.3ah to begin Sponsor Ballot.

 

Motion

 

The LMSC executive committee grants conditional approval per Procedure 10, for P802.3ah sponsor ballot pending successful completion of the working group ballot process.

Moved by Bob Grow
Seconded by Tony Jeffree

The email ballot opens on Friday Nov 21 NOON EST and Monday Dec 1 NOON EST.

Please direct your responses to the EC reflector with a CC directly to me
(p.nikolich@ieee.org).

Regards,

- Paul Nikolich

Chairman, IEEE 802 LMSC
 
 
Colleagues:

 

During the closing EC meeting, consideration of conditional approval for P802.3ah progressing to sponsor ballot was deferred for email consideration. 

   

 

Motion

 

The LMSC executive committee grants conditional approval per Procedure 10, for P802.3ah sponsor ballot pending successful completion of the working group ballot process.