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Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Approval of November/January minutes and reports


Regarding your item 2, my browser shows a link and it goes to a valid
page at


-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Roger B.
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:05 PM
To: IEEE802
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Approval of November/January
minutes and reports

Disapprove, with the following comments:

(1) Approval of the "Motin" does not include approval of the January
minutes since that is not in the text of the motion. However, the
preceding paragraph may lead some reasonable people to believe
otherwise. This situation is too ambiguous for me to vote Approve.

(2) As I understand the motion, we are approving everything at
<>. There is a link there
labeled "802 News Bulletin." However, that Bulletin is wrong (as it
must be, since that link is nonexistent).

(3) I note that pages 127 and 129 are labeled with an "802.17" logo.
According to the of the P&P, 'Proposed changes my be created
by: a) Any working group or technical advisory group. A proposal
shall require the affirmative vote of at least three fourths of the
members present when the vote is taken..." b) Any Executive Committee
Member.' Since the motion slide on page 125 is labeled with the
802.17 logo, one might presume that it was submitted by the 802.17 WG
based on a 75% vote of that group. If this is the case, it should be
noted specifically in the minutes.

Also, although the January minutes are not part of the motion, I have
the following comments on them:

(a) Under 5.02, the sentence "Jim Carlo has taken the initiative to
have a letter drafted to present to the BoG and sent by Friday
(1/16/2004) that
supports the 802.11 position." in incorrect. It would be nearly
correct if "802.11" were replaced by "802". I would be satisfied with
that change.

(b) Under 5.02, the following is misleading: "Stuart indicated that
he will be in China for three conferences by May. He will carry any
further positions of the EC with him." It could be interpreted as
meaning that the EC agreed that Stuart will formally represent the
EC. I do not believe that such a decision was discussed in the
meeting. I would be satisfied with a change of the latter sentence to
"He volunteered to carry any further positions of the EC with him."


At 14:15 -0500 04/03/26, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>Dear EC members,
>At the closing EC meeting we agreed to defer the approval of the
>minutes to a 30 day email ballot (closing April 19th, 2004).  (I
>we also include the January interim session ad-hoc EC meeting minutes
>approved using the same mechanism--please indicate in your vote if you
>approve those minutes as well.)  Pointers to the minutes are included
>for your reference.
>Motin: To approve the November 2003 IEEE 802 LMSC EC meeting minutes.
>mover/seconder were Bob Grow/DJ Johnson.
>Opens: March 19th
>Closes: April 19th.
>By my count there are 15 EC Voting Members:
>MSherman, HFrazier, ERiggsbee, BO'Hara, BQuackenbush, TJeffree, BGrow,
>SKerry, BHeile, RMarks, MTakefman, CStevenson, SShellhammer, JUpton,
>--Paul Nikolich
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob O'Hara" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 5:18 PM
>Subject: [802SEC] November/January minutes and reports
>>  I have just posted the minutes and reports to the web site.  I
>>  for the extraordinary delay this time.  You can find the minutes and
>>  reports at:
>  >
>  > and
>>   -Bob
>>  Bob O'Hara
>>  Airespace, Inc.
>>  110 Nortech Parkway
>>  San Jose, CA 95134-2307
>>  Phone:       +1 408 635 2025
>>  Mobile:      +1 408 218 4025
>>  Fax:         +1 408 635 2020
>  > email:
>  >
>  >
>  >

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