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Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ compliance withIEEE-SA and IEEE CS Governance



Hi Everyone,

The attached file reflects comments resolution from Sunday night.  The
only change from my prior text is that the following was deleted from
Clause 1:

"These P&P outline the orderly transaction of business of this
committee. For the development of standards, openness and due process
must apply, which means that any individual with a direct and material
interest meeting the requirements of these P&P has a right to
participate by: 
a) expressing a position and its basis, 
b) having that position considered, and 
c) appealing if adversely affected. 
Due process allows for equity and fair play. In addition to openness,
due process requires balance, i.e., the standards development process
should have a balance of interests and shall not be dominated by any
single interest category."

I believe concensus existed for all the other changes proposed in this
revision.  Please let me know if any of you have objections as soon as
possible so that I may conduct further resolution.

Thanks to all,

Mat  






Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Sherman,
Matthew J. (US SSA)
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:08 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ compliance
withIEEE-SA and IEEE CS Governance

Dear EC members,

There is only ONE DAY left to get in you votes on this ballot. Below you
will find current status on the ballot. The ballot closes at October 11,
2004 11:59 PM EDT.  Please try to get your votes in today!

Note that I have voted "approve" with comments. I have additional
recommended changes that I feel are required to be in full conformance
with IEEE-SA / IEEE CS governance.  I have attached a powerpoint file
that summarizes my efforts, and a marked up draft of our current P&P
that includes the changes I am proposing at this time.

Thanks & Regards,
Mat






Voters                DNV   DIS   DNV   APP   ABS       Comments
Provided?
---------------------------------------------------------
00 Paul Nikolich                                        APP
No      	
01 Mat Sherman                                  APP             Yes
02 Howard Frazier       DNV
03 Buzz Rigsbee         DNV
04 Bob O'Hara           DNV
05 John Hawkins
06 Tony Jeffree                                 APP             No
07 Bob Grow                     DNV
08 Stuart Kerry         DNV
09 Bob Heile            DNV
10 Roger Marks          DNV
11 Mike Takefman                DNV
12 Carl Stevenson                                       APP
No
13 Steve Shellhammer    DNV
14 Jerry Upton          DNV
15 Ajay Rajkumar                DNV
---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---
TOTALS  DIS  DNV  APP  ABS
total: -00- -11- -04- -00-








PreBallot Comments (I believe these were accommodated in the balloted
wording of the text):
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Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) [carlstevenson@AGERE.COM]
Tue 7/20/2004 1:28 PM

Geoff's comments are good, and I would echo them.

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Geoff Thompson [gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Mon 7/19/2004 1:11 AM

I feel that the text that opens things up completely could be used
against us.
Therefore, please consider the following change
(If I had a vote it would be DISAPPROVE to get this change in.)
From: 
"These Operating Procedures outline the orderly transaction of business
of this committee. For the 
development of standards, openness and due process must apply, which
means that any individual with a 
direct and material interest has a right to participate by: 
a) expressing a position and its basis, 
b) having that position considered, and 
c) appealing if adversely affected. 
Due process allows for equity and fair play. In addition to openness,
due process requires balance, i.e., 
the standards development process should have a balance of interests and
shall not be dominated by any 
single interest category." 
To: 
"These Operating Procedures outline the orderly transaction of business
of this committee. For the 
development of standards, openness and due process must apply, which
means that any individual with a 
direct and material interest, who meets the participation requirements
has a right to participate by: 
a) expressing a position and its basis, 
b) having that position considered, and 
c) appealing if adversely affected. 
Due process allows for equity and fair play. In addition to openness,
due process requires balance, i.e., 
the standards development process should have a balance of interests and
shall not be dominated by any 
single interest category." 
Else we could have folks claiming they can either ballot or walk in and
speak without going through the normal requirements (which are not
discriminatory) of either meeting registration requirements or joining
the ballot pool/group.

I think we can add this text with no problem with the IEEE.





Matthew Sherman, PhD
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email:  matthew.sherman@baesystems.com



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Sherman,
Matthew J. (US SSA)
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:32 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ compliance
withIEEE-SA and IEEE CS Governance


Hi Everyone,

Just a reminder that this closes in about 1 week.  Please get you votes
and any comments in.  I'm pretty tied up this week, but will get out a
summary of the current voting and comments on Friday.

Thanks,

Mat

Matthew Sherman, PhD
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email:  matthew.sherman@baesystems.com


>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:08 PM
> To:   STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Cc:   'Paul Nikolich'; 'Jim Moore.'; 'm.nielsen@ieee.org';
'd.ringle@ieee.org'; 'Bob Pritchard'; steve_mills@hp.com
> Subject:      +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++  compliance with
IEEE-SA and IEEE CS Governance
>
> Dear EC members,
> Attached you will find the text for an LMSC P&P revision ballot on
compliance with IEEE-SA and IEEE-CS governance. This ballot was approved
at the Friday July 16, 2004 EC meeting. The text is identical to that
presented at the meeting.  The purpose and rationale for the ballot are
as given in the attached ballot document.
> Ballot Opens: September 10, 2004
> Ballot Closes: October 11, 2004 11:59 PM EDT
> WG chairs, please distribute this P&P revision ballot to your WG, and
invite them to comment through you. Note that I am actively reviewing
governance documents and will provide feedback on the reflector during
this ballot and the following comment resolution period.
> Thanks & Regards,
> Mat
>
>  << File:
802.0-Compliance_with_SA&CS_Governance-P&P_Revision_ballot.pdf >>
>
> Matthew Sherman, PhD
> Vice Chair, IEEE 802
> Senior Member Technical Staff
> BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
> Mail Stop 11B01
> 164 Totowa Road
> Wayne, NJ 07474-0975
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