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> From: firstname.lastname@example.org
> [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of John Lemon
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:56 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: [802SEC] Attendance Credit At LMSC WG Meetings
> More experienced ones:
> I'm seeking some advice on how to handle a claim of
> attendance at the most recent plenary meeting. One person
> managed to sign-in for 75% of the half-day sign-in slots for
> 802.17. However, said person was not actually in attendance
> for more than a few minutes for some of those periods.
> What would you recommend we do in such a situation?
> 1. Strike the sign-ins for the periods when the person was in
> attendance for only a few minutes, and notify them of the action?
> 2. Strike the sign-ins for the periods when the person was in
> attendance for only a few minutes, without notifying them of
> the action?
> 3. Count this as a learning experience and institute tighter
> control on the sign-in booklet in the future?
> 4. Other?
> If you chose 3, how would you recommend preventing this abuse
> in the future?
I would recommend 1 and 3. I say 1 vs. 2 because I think the person(s) involved deserve notice. You will need the concurrence and support of your WG Chair, of course.
The intent, as I understand it, and have implemented it in 802.18 and intend to implement it in 802.22, is that "attendance at a meeting" means "was present for substantially all of the meeting period" (yes, people occasionally need to leave the room temporarily to field phone calls, do "bio-breaks," etc., but the practice of showing up, signing the book, and then leaving to go elsewhere is, in my opinion, an abuse).
As far as how to institute tighter control on the sign-in book is concerned, I'm not sure what to suggest. 802.18 has been a small enough group that everyone pretty much knew everyone else and abuse would have been noted fairly easily. In a larger group, it's obviously not so easy. (I will have to give more thought on how to make sure that such abuse does not occur in 802.22 as well, since, with 76 voters and 114 total attendees at the first session, it will be harder to keep track by the "eyeball" method there, too.)
Perhaps someone else on the EC will have some useful suggestions.
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> Tony, I came in to the 802.1 meeting for our joint
> 802.1/802.17 meeting just as you were finishing saying
> something about this to the 802.1 participants. I missed most
> of what you said. Could you repeat it here?
> John Lemon
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