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Re: [802SEC] FW: Plenary Meeting locations

I agree wholeheartedly.  We have to "walk the walk" not just "talk the talk."
Not having a plenary outside of the US (except Vancouver, which is so close that it might as well be the US for folks from EU or Asia) is, I think, not acceptable.
Yes, international meetings cost more, but always coming to the US (or make that North America) is not such a good deal for our large contingents from EU and
Asia, either money-wise or travel/time-wise.

From: [] On Behalf Of Stuart Kerry
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:24 PM
Subject: [802SEC] FW: Plenary Meeting locations

802 ExCom Members,


I am forwarding the attached email to you all from a member of my Working Group (Bruce Kraemer), who raises genuine concerns over the locations of future 802 Plenary sessions. He has addressed an issue that has been raised that is dear to my heart in connection with our recent ISO effort, which respect to our work as an International body, and therefore I offer this to you in support, for your comments and views.


I also ask that you add Bruce to your email replies as he is not on the ExCom reflector.


/ Stuart




Stuart J. Kerry

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From: Bruce Kraemer []
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:10 AM
Cc:;;; Stuart Kerry
Subject: Plenary Meeting locations


Dear SEC,


  1. I was checking meeting dates and noticed that all of the upcoming 802 Plenaries are scheduled for US locations through 2009! (I include Vancouver)



  1. I also noted the following news article last week from China Tech News. While highly biased it does illustrate my point.


WAPI Proposal Finally Acknowledged By International Organization
December 9, 2004

After many ups and downs, the Chinese-sponsored WAPI (Wireless LAN Authentication and Privacy Infrastructure) standard has seen a new twist--it has finally been acknowledged by the International Standardization Organization during the ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 session.
WAPI will be pushed within ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 along with America's IEEE 802.11i, and WAPI will be put on the agenda of the SC 6 WG1 meeting scheduled for February 2005.
Local reports say that the Chinese delegation successfully made their bid by forcing the US side to issue a statement that both WAPI and 802.11i can be deployed together.




  1. Although the IEEE 802 may wish to call itself an inter-national standards body it has been pointed out many times that such a view is not universally held. 802 needs to seriously consider changing meeting venues as one means to back up the rhetoric. The individual working groups have been more proactive in distributing their meeting locations which obviously helps but is not sufficient. Please consider including inter-national 802 plenary  locations as soon as possible.



Bruce Kraemer

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