Re: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ EC_Membership_&_Meetings
I vote Disapprove, with the following comments:
(1) I object the first sentence of 220.127.116.11: "In case of questions of
the validity of an election, the person last holding the position
will continue to serve until such time as election concerns are
It is, in my opinion, ludicrous to invalidate an election because
"questions" had been raised regarding its validity.
Remedy: Change the first sentence of 18.104.22.168 to: "In case an election
is not confirmed by the EC, the person last holding the position will
continue to serve until confirmation of the new officer is complete."
(2) 22.214.171.124 is numbered incorrectly, since the current P&P includes a
subclause 126.96.36.199. Also, the header doesn't fully match the content.
Remedy: instead of being a standalone clause, add the text of
188.8.131.52, as corrected and without the header, as the third paragraph
of 7.2.2, which describes the election and confirmation of the WG
(3) Instead of simply extending 7.1.3 ("Reaffirmation"), we should
correct the existing text, which says: "All members of the Executive
Committee are reaffirmed at the first Plenary session of each even
numbered year. The Working Group and TAG chairs are reaffirmed by
their representative groups while other members of the Executive
Committee are reaffirmed in the Executive Committee meeting." The
sentences are false: EC members are sometimes NOT affirmed. In any
case, we should avoid using the word "affirm", which is not used
elsewhere in the P&P. Furthermore, the content regarding WG and TAG
chairs is completely redundant with 7.2.2 and should be stricken to
avoid the requirement to compare and contrast two different
subclauses covering the same topic. Also, there is no need to talk
about "reaffirmation", since elections and appointments are described
elsewhere, the only purpose is to describe the ending of the
Remedy: Change the title of 7.1.3 to "Expiration of Membership Term".
Change the first two sentences of 7.1.3 to: "The term of each
Executive Committee member expires at the end of the first Plenary
session of each even numbered year."
(4) The new material added to 7.1.3 serves no purpose, except to
specify the possibility of "removal with cause". there is no defined
procedure for removal, so the new material is completely useless.
[The current P&P define a process for a WG to hold an election before
the term expires.]
Remedy: Delete last two sentence of 7.1.3.
(5) Regarding 184.108.40.206 ("Meetings by Teleconference"), I don't think
we need them and I am opposed to holding them. They might make sense
in an emergency, but they couldn't be used in an emergency because of
the 30-day notice required in this rule. The rule also fails to
specify who is entitled to call such a meeting, and on what grounds.
A better issue to address regarding telephone meetings is a provision
to allow telephone participation in EC meetings by members who are
Remedy: Delete 220.127.116.11. At the end of the first paragraph of 7.1.5,
add "Members of the Executive Committee may participate in and vote
in EC meetings by telephone if unable to attend due to illness or
other extraordinary circumstance."
>Dear EC members,
>Attached you will find the text for an LMSC P&P revision ballot on
>EC Membership and Meetings. This ballot was approved at the Friday
>November 19, 2004 EC meeting. The text is identical to that
>presented at the meeting. The purpose and rationale for the ballot
>are as given in the attached ballot document.
>Ballot Duration: 12/5/2004 - 1/5/2004 @ 11:59 PM EST
>WG/TAG chairs, please distribute this P&P revision ballot to your
>groups, and invite them to comment through you.
>Thanks & Regards,
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