Re: [802SEC] +++++++++ P&P Ballot Resolution Telecom Notice +++++++++++++
Your point about firewalls and Netmeeting is well taken.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Takefman [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:17 AM
> To: wk3c@WK3C.COM
> Cc: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++++++++ P&P Ballot Resolution Telecom
> Notice +++++++++++++
> I don't care what the client is. The advantage of Messenger
> (either yahoo or msn) is that it is relayed. Netmeeting
> requires that we know the IP address of everyone in the call,
> and many corporate firewalls would make that impossible.
> Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
> > While I see value in Mike's proposal, I would prefer to use MS
> > Messenger or Netmeeting, rather than anything hosted
> through Yahoo ...
> > 1) I don't want to have to install yet another IM client
> > 2) I have heard reports of onerously prying cookies, etc.
> > Carl
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: firstname.lastname@example.org
> >>[mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of Mike Takefman
> >>Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:00 PM
> >>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> >>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++++++++ P&P Ballot Resolution
> Telecom Notice
> >>while I have no objection to continuing to persue P&P
> resolution via
> >>teleconference I recognize the difficulty in scheduling
> around all of
> >>the participants schedules and I hope we can find a
> reasonable common
> >>I would personally like to see 1 major change to the methodology.
> >>When .17 has teleconference calls, we use Yahoo Messenger
> to create a
> >>text conference room for all participants. This allows the
> >>or commenter to cut and paste their proposed text for all
> to see. We
> >>are able to achieve concensus on word smithing issues far quicker
> >>since people can actually read the proposed text.
> >>In the case of a poor bridge, IM also allows, a method for a
> >>participant to object or request the floor. Some bridges
> I've been on
> >>(with many participants) do not mix the signals well and
> tend to give
> >>the "loudest" speaker the floor, drowning out other voices.
> >>Yahoo Messenger is free, and most (but not all)
> corporations allow it
> >>to pass through their firewalls. All that is required is that the
> >>moderator have all of the participants on his contact list so that
> >>he/she can create the conference room and add people as they arrive.
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