Re: [802SEC] Proposed P&P Revision ballot on 'WG Membership and Meetings'
At 04:56 16/03/2005, Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) wrote:
the last part, the following pathological situation exists in the rules
today. I donít return 2 out of 3 ballots, so I loss my
membership. But I attend all the meetings. So if I show up at
the next plenary, I automatically regain my membership. This seems
counter the intent of the rule, so Iíve explicitly stated that loss of
membership results in prior attendance being discounted.
Actually that case *does not* exist in the rules today, because they
currently state that "Membership may be re-established as if the
person were a new candidate member" in this case (i.e., you re-start
building credit from scratch).
Making loss of prior attendance credit a blanket rule for all membership
loss situations means that if someone shows up after a period of absence
of a bit less than a year (intending to regularly attend again), you can
get the crazy situation where they manage to attend a meeting just inside
a year from their last attendance, but their membership is lost say 1
month later, and even though they attend the very next session, they lose
the previous session's attendance credit.
That is totally nuts, and if the wording stays that way, I will vote
against the change, and that is a case that I will absolutely not apply
So I believe that you should revert to the previous formulation, where
loss of prior attendance credit only applies where you lose membership
through failure to meet your obligations as a member (paying your meeting
dues, and responding to ballots) - in other words, it is applied as a
punitive measure for miscreants.
I believe the fix here is to move the sentence "Membership is also
lost...365 day period" to the end of the paragraph, and add a
sentence indicating that any membership credit that falls within the
365-day period is retained in this case.
I would also suggest that instead of 365 days, we use "the span of
the three most recent plenary sessions" as the time period, and make
it clear that the this rule is applied at the end of each Plenary
session, thus reducing the time to age out non-participants to 8 months
rather than 12.
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