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Re: [802SEC] FW: FW: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership & Meeting P&P



Folks,

I'm keeping quiet because I prefer to be an observer in these things,
and not participate heavily till comment resolution.  But I do want to
acknowledge and thank everyone for the great feed back we are getting.
I'm also noticing some substantial feedback from the rank and file in
some groups which is the way it should be.  Keep it coming!

Thanks,

Mat

Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com

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From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Shellhammer,
Stephen J
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:56 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] FW: FW: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG
Membership & Meeting P&P

Mat,

	I received the following comments on the ballot from a 802.19
member.

Steve
_________________
Steve Shellhammer
Intel Corporation
(858) 391-4570
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Whitesell [mailto:swhitesell@vtech.ca] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:27 PM
To: Shellhammer, Stephen J
Cc: tom.siep@ieee.org
Subject: Re: FW: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership
& Meeting P&P





Steve

My comments on the 802 P&P changes:

      Clause 7.2.4.5:  The title of the clause, "Removal of Working
Group
      Officers Confirmed by the EC," and the wording in the third line,
      "misrepresented by one or more of its officers (confirmed by the
      EC)," is a bit confusing, even for folks whose first language is
      English.  One way of reading this wording is that the discussion
      concerns only those officers whose selection is confirmed
(ratified)
      by the Executive Committee, and that there are other officers
whose
      selection is not confirmed (ratified) by the EC.  Another possible
      reading of these phrases is that the "removal" or the
      "misrepresentation" is something that is confirmed by the EC.

      Also in the first line of this clause, it appears that two
attempts
      were made to revise the parenthetical "(WG Chair)" to "(WG
      Officers)", with the net result being "( Officers WG Officers)".

      Clause 7.2.4.6:  The first "WG" should be "WGs"as the antecedent
of
      the pronoun "their".  Alternatively, the first "WG" could be
changed
      to "A WG" along with changing "their" to "its".

Steve Whitesell





 

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IEEE 802.19 Members,

      If you have any comments on these 802 P&P changes please send
your comments to me and I will incorporate them in my response to Mat
Sherman.

Regards,
Steve

_________________
Steve Shellhammer
Intel Corporation
(858) 391-4570

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Sherman,
Matthew J. (US SSA)
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:11 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership &
Meeting P&P

Dear EC members,

Attached you will find the text for an LMSC P&P revision ballot on WG
Membership & Meeting Policies and Procedures. This ballot was approved
at the Friday March 18, 2005 EC meeting. The text is identical to that
presented at the meeting (but changes have been highlighted).  The
purpose and rationale for the ballot are as given in the attached ballot
document.

Ballot Duration:  5/2/2005 - 6/2/2005 @ 11:59 PM EST

WG/TAG chairs, please distribute this P&P revision ballot to your
groups, and invite them to comment through you. Please direct any
comments on this revision to the reflector for collection.

Thanks & Regards,

Mat



<<802.0-EC_Voting_Rules-P&P_Revision_ballot.pdf>>



Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com


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