Re: [802SEC] Updated P&P Revision Ballots
Jerry,
Good points. I would recommend and support that when I craft the motion
for approval of the change we add in the motion 'effective as of the end
of the November 05 plenary session'. In the interim, we would not
integrate the change into the posted rules, but would post the change
separately so that folks see it coming.
Regarding Roberts, I feel the two texts really say the same thing twice.
That said, I see no reason to repeat ourselves. I prefer to put all the
'governance' material in one place. I plan to update the change to
delete clause 13 in its entirety. I believe that doing so essentially
has no impact on what the rules actually are, and cleans up the
document.
Folks,
Please let me know if you objected to any of the above recommendations.
Thanks,
Mat
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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From: Jerry1upton@aol.com [mailto:Jerry1upton@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:15 AM
To: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA); STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Updated P&P Revision Ballots
Matt,
Without a "Notice Period" to our members, I cannot support the proposed
change in the Working Group Membership ballot regarding Section 7.2.3.2
Loss.
If we approve this change and it goes into effect following this
Plenary, I will need to remove current Voters from the roll without any
notice. It would seem fair to tell members in advance so that they could
participate in another meeting(s) to retain their rights.
I suggest we give notice to our members. If approved, this change should
go into effect after the November Plenary, so people can have an
opportunity to retain their voting rights.
Secondly in the Misc. Ballot, Section 13 seems in conflict with Section
1 regarding Robert's Rules of Order. However, this may be just my view
of the wording. Please give me your views.
Regards,
Jerry Upton
In a message dated 7/19/2005 2:01:59 AM Central Standard Time,
matthew.sherman@BAESYSTEMS.COM writes:
Folks,
Here they are. I have attached 5 files which are the fully
updated P&P
Revisions. Note that the revision titled 'WG Term Limits" is
one
paragraph divided from the WG Membership and Meetings ballot per
Bob
Grow's request.
Please review these files. If you do not believe you can vote
'APPROVE'
on some of the files, please let me know by WEDNESDAY! Please
also let
me know what particular text offends you. I will divide out any
controversial text and have it voted separately. That way we can
still
get some productive changes through.
Regards,
Mat
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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