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Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta Proposal+++ends 29 J...



Let me "pile on". I never felt unsafe in Atlanta and there was a good
choice of restaurants. As for Albuquerque I just hope we go back during
the tourist season when more things are open.

Regards,

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@JEFFREE.CO.UK] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 02:50
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta
Proposal+++ends 29 J...


I would agree with Pat - as downtown venues go, it was certainly not as
bad 
as some that we have been to, and in comparison to some of our all-time 
worst venues (DFW, Danvers to name a couple) it was excellent. Maybe not
in 
the same league as our very best venues (Vancouver and Montreal spring
to 
mind there), but definitely acceptable.

Regards,
Tony

At 00:59 26/07/2005, Pat Thaler wrote:
>Buzz,
>
>I thought Atlanta was a fine venue. I appreciate downtown venues like
>Atlanta for the easy access to restaurants for dinners and quick
lunches. 
>I didn't poll anyone but I didn't hear any complaints on the area and I

>felt safe enough in the area. I've been there in the past for InterOps
and 
>I've never had a problem even walking and using the subway (which seems
to 
>have a fair amount of security staff) after dark. I doubt there is a 
>significant crime difference between Atlanta and San Francisco - and at

>least it is less grim than downtown Albuquerque at night.
>
>Also, Atlanta helps to balance out our locations which are a bit light 
>on
>East Coast venues.
>
>I found Airport transportation pretty easy since it is a straight shot 
>on
>the subway.
>
>Regards,
>Pat
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@BOEING.COM]
>Sent: Monday, 25 July, 2005 4:10 PM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta
>Proposal+++ends 29 J...
>
>Thanx Jerry,    I appreciate your input.  Could you please tell me how 
>many members were voting on that meeting site poll on Atlanta ???
>
>Where I recognize it may not be anyone's favorite return site, I think
>Atlanta still represents an exceptional value site that may then allow
us 
>to return to other favorite venues for an average cost that is still 
>acceptable overall.  A lot of our guys ARE on fairly tight travel
budgets 
>these days so we need some value locations.  Typically those offer
lower 
>prices for some reason.  I saw no safety issue in Atlanta, any more
than 
>in any large Metropolitan Area.  They just went to the bother of
putting 
>out an advisory to visitors message because they are trying to indicate

>their sincere effort to eradicate a prior problem.  We had no reports
of 
>any incidents, and mostly got compliments for the courteousness of the 
>downtown escort service.
>
>Safety would not be my first concern for Atlanta, but transportation to
>and from the airport might be my number one.  I thought the downtown 
>location had more than enough good restaurant and night life options 
>nearby to keep most folks happy all week.
>
>Thanx,  Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing - SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>Cell: (425) 417-1022
>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Jerry1upton@aol.com [mailto:Jerry1upton@aol.com]
>         Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:21 PM
>         To: Rigsbee, Everett O; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>         Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The 
> Atlanta
> Proposal+++ends 29 J...
>
>
>         Buzz,
>         I recognize there are few locations that we can fit into for a
> Plenary. I also recognize that we are offered very good financial
terms.
>
>         However, I usually check with my members after a Plenary and 
> ask
> whether they would want to return to the location. Though we did vote
a 
> motion on Atlanta after the last Plenary, virtually no member who 
> attended Atlanta would rank this location as a desired return
location. 
> One main point is that the downtown area is not viewed as safe. I
would 
> not personally book another meeting in downtown Atlanta for other 
> organizations that I manage or vote venues. I did manage a meeting
last 
> year in the Westin in downtown Atlanta for another organization and
the 
> view of the attendees was not to return.
>
>         Therefore, I vote No.
>         Regards,
>         Jerry Upton
>
>         In a message dated 7/23/2005 1:07:09 PM Central Standard Time,
> everett.o.rigsbee@BOEING.COM writes:
>
>
>                 Paul,  We are actually balloting a same deal repeat 
> for
> Nov. 2011 as well.
>
>                 Please vote for each independently as indicated on the
> motion.
>
>                 The first file is the terms of the deal; the second is
> the motion.
>
>                 Thanx for your cooperation.
>
>                 Thanx,  Buzz
>                 Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>                 Boeing - SSG
>                 PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>                 Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>                 (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>                 Cell: (425) 417-1022
>                 everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>
>
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET]
>                 Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 10:46 AM
>                 To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>                 Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The
> Atlanta Proposal+++ends 29 July 2005
>
>
>                 Dear EC Members,
>
>                 This is a email ballot to make a determination on the
> below motion.
>
>                 Motion: "To approve the attached motion (finalize
> contract arrangements with
>                 Hyatt Regency Atlanta) for Nov 2009).
>
>                 Moved: Rigsbee
>                 Second: Hawkins
>
>                 The ballot opens noon PT Saturday 23 July 2005 and 
> closes
> Friday 29 July
>                 2005.
>
>                 Regards,
>
>                 --Paul Nikolich
>
>
>                 ----- Original Message -----
>                 From: "Rigsbee, Everett O"
<everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com>
>                 To: <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
>                 Cc: <jhawkins@nortel.com>;
<dawns@facetoface-events.com>
>                 Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:37 PM
>                 Subject: The Atlanta Proposal for EC Ballot
>
>
>
>                 Paul,  Here's is the material from the Atlanta 
> Proposal
> to be balloted and
>                 closed by 30 July 2005.  The first file is the 
> information on the deal(s).
>                 The second is the motions to approve for Nov. 2009 and

> for Nov. 2011.
>
>
>                 Thanx,  Buzz
>                 Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>                 Boeing - SSG
>                 PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>                 Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>                 (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>                 Cell: (425) 417-1022
>                 everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>
>
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Regards,
Tony

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