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[802SEC] FW: Withdrawal of WDM-PON tutorial at upcoming Plenary Session



FYI -   
 
 

Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing IT - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
Cell: (425) 417-1022
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Sorin [mailto:wayne.sorin@noveraoptics.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 11:15 AM
To: bob.grow@intel.com
Cc: chl@ee.kaist.ac.kr; eAA; UAAo; p.nikolich@ieee.org; Rigsbee, Everett O; Wayne Sorin
Subject: Withdrawal of WDM-PON tutorial at upcoming Plenary Session


Dear Bob,
 
Thank you for your support in arranging the WDM-PON tutorial slot at the upcoming Plenary Session,  but it has come to our attention through some existing voting members that this is not following standard procedures and may actually hurt our chances within the standards process.  
 
For this reason we would like to withdraw our tutorial scheduled for Tuesday, Nov. 15 at 6:30pm.  I hope this will not cause to much trouble at this late date.
 
Our intention is to try to follow your earlier recommendation and develop some support within the existing voting members before presenting a formal tutorial.  I will be attending the Plenary in Vancouver and would like to meet with as many of the relevant members as possible.  Hopefully if we can generate some support, this will lead  to a CFI by the next meeting.
 
Can you forward this email to anyone I may have missed.
 
Regards,
Wayne Sorin

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Wayne V. Sorin
Chief Scientist
Novera Optics, Inc.
480 California Ave. Suite 305
Palo Alto, CA 94306
cell: 650-248-4042
email: wayne.sorin@noveraoptics.com 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Chang-Hee Lee [mailto:chl@ee.kaist.ac.kr]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:44 PM
To: Ź; »; wayne.sorin@noveraoptics.com
Subject: FW: IEEE tutorial request form


FYI



________________________________

	From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com] 
	Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:57 AM
	To: Grow, Bob; Chang-Hee Lee; Paul Nikolich; 802info@ieee.org
	Cc: p.nikolich@ieee.org; ???
	Subject: RE: IEEE tutorial request form
	
	
	Dawn,  Can we put out a Tutorial List to reflect our current assignments to date ???   Several people would appear to like an update of what we have so far.  

	Thanx,  Buzz
	Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
	Boeing IT - SSG
	PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
	Seattle, WA  98124-2207
	(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
	Cell: (425) 417-1022
	everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
	
	

		-----Original Message-----
		From: Grow, Bob [mailto:bob.grow@intel.com] 
		Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:23 AM
		To: Chang-Hee Lee; Rigsbee, Everett O; Paul Nikolich; 802info@ieee.org
		Cc: p.nikolich@ieee.org; ???
		Subject: RE: IEEE tutorial request form
		
		
		Chang-Hee Lee:
		 
		I believe it has been scheduled for Tuesday evening, but I have not yet seen the tutorial schedule and therefore don't know if it will be in the first or second slot (6:30pm or 8:00pm).
		 
		--Bob

________________________________

		From: Chang-Hee Lee [mailto:chlredrock@msn.com] 
		Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 7:37 PM
		To: 'Chang-Hee Lee'; Grow, Bob; 'Rigsbee, Everett O'; 'Paul Nikolich'; 802info@ieee.org
		Cc: p.nikolich@ieee.org; Ź
		Subject: RE: IEEE tutorial request form
		
		
		Dear Bob,
		 
		I returned to Korea after attending a conference at Scotland. I wish you already fixed the tutorial schedule. Is it possible to have the schedule?
		Thank for your support and help.
		 
		Best regards
		 
		Chang-Hee Lee.


________________________________

			From: Chang-Hee Lee [mailto:chlredrock@msn.com] 
			Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:29 PM
			To: 'Grow, Bob'; 'Rigsbee, Everett O'; 'Paul Nikolich'; '802info@ieee.org'
			Cc: 'p.nikolich@ieee.org'
			Subject: RE: IEEE tutorial request form
			
			
			Dear Bob,
			 
			Thank you for your consideration and comments. We understood that the study group is formed after approval of the CFI. I revised the abstract. Please use the modified one. For tutorial, I will explain the technical aspect of the WDM-PON including field trial results at the end of presentation. For presenters, I will be main one. I add Wayne Sorin as a second presenter, just in case I cannot travel to US.
			 
			Best regards
			 
			Chang-Hee Lee
			 


________________________________

				From: Grow, Bob [mailto:bob.grow@intel.com] 
				Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 7:42 AM
				To: Rigsbee, Everett O; Paul Nikolich; Chang-Hee Lee; 802info@ieee.org
				Cc: p.nikolich@ieee.org
				Subject: RE: IEEE tutorial request form
				
				
				Buzz, Paul, Dawn:
				 
				These folk have been in email contact with me for some time, and they went out of their way to met me in New Jersey last week.  They are interested in starting work within 802.3, but have not yet attended an 802.3 meeting.  Our Call for Interest process requires that the CFI come from a (voting) member of IEEE 802.3, and though I have provided them with contact information for a few 802.3 members, they have not recruited any of them to initiate the CFI.  (I don't know how hard they have tried to do this.)
				 
				Buzz, there are individuals from two different companies involved, "multiple viewpoints" has not been a make-or-break item for most of our tutorials.  My concern was if this is of sufficient general interest to IEEE 802, but I believe it meets most of the criteria in the Chair's Guideline for Tutorials.
				 
				The individuals participating have been struggling to understand how thing work with IEEE 802 and within IEEE 802.3.  I have attempted to clarify for them the difference between an IEEE 802 tutorial and an IEEE 802.3 Call for Interest, apparently with little success as evidenced by the last sentence of the abstract.  
				 
				Chang-Hee, please note that IEEE 802.3 only studies things in a study group.  A study group can only be launched through a CFI intiated per the IEEE 802.3 rules.  A tutorial may cover technology appropriate for standardization, but it cannot be used to start an IEEE 802.3 study group.
				 
				
				All that said, I am willing to sponsor the tutorial in the spirit of international outreach.  I do not know what other requests you have for the November tutorial slots and how this one compares for general IEEE 802 interest.  I respectfully request that you include consideration of the international nature of this tutorial request in your deliberation and selection of November tutorials.
				 
				

				Bob Grow
				Chair, IEEE 802.3
				bob.grow@ieee.org

				 


________________________________

				From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com] 
				Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:01 PM
				To: Paul Nikolich; Chang-Hee Lee; 802info@ieee.org
				Cc: p.nikolich@ieee.org; Grow, Bob
				Subject: RE: IEEE tutorial request form
				
				
				Paul,    And a bit more diversity in the affiliations of the presenters would be a good thing too, don'cha think ???
				 

				Thanx,  Buzz
				Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
				Boeing IT - SSG
				PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
				Seattle, WA  98124-2207
				(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
				Cell: (425) 417-1022
				everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
				
				

					-----Original Message-----
					From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@att.net] 
					Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:39 AM
					To: Chang-Hee Lee; 802info@ieee.org
					Cc: p.nikolich@ieee.org; Rigsbee, Everett O; Grow Bob
					Subject: Re: IEEE tutorial request form
					
					
					Dear Chang,
					 
					Before we can approve this as an 802 tutorial, I need an explicit request from Bob Grow, chair of 802.3 WG, to hold it.  Please verify with Bob that he approves, have him send me, Buzz and FtF the request and then we'll load it on to the agenda.
					 
					Regards,
					 
					--Paul

					----- Original Message ----- 
					From: Chang-Hee Lee <mailto:chlredrock@msn.com>  
					To: 802info@ieee.org 
					Cc: p.nikolich@ieee.org ; everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com ; Grow Bob <mailto:bob.grow@intel.com>  
					Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:21 AM
					Subject: IEEE tutorial request form

					Dear Dawn Slykhouse,
					 
					 
					I am sending a proposal for the tutorial at forth coming IEEE 802.3 meeting. Please find attached file. I wish to have a chance for the tutorial. Thank you for your help. 
					 
					Best regards
					 
					Chang-Hee Lee 
					 


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