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Re: [802SEC] request for input from 802 EC members regarding 8802-1 review



Andrew, et al,

Should not the topic at the right on slide 8 say "The review will draw on
the OPINIONS of all stakeholders" rather than "The review will draw on the
OPTIONS of all stakeholders" ???

The text on the right side of slide 9 calls the status of IEEE standards as
"international standards" into question.  From the perspective of a member
of the IEEE-SA Board of Governors, I believe that this in in conflict with
the goals of IEEE-SA to gain (increasing) acceptance of IEEE standards as
being international in nature and IEEE-SA being an international (rather
than US-centric) SDO, without dependence on any other body/SDO.
(This calling into question also seems at odds with the text on the left
side of slide 13, which states " ... 8802-1, which highlights the ".
undoubted standing of IEEE 802 as the international body that makes LAN
standards .")
I would also point out that the IEEE has Sector Memberships in ITU-R and
ITU-T (and at least the R Sector membership is in the same category (i.e.,
"on an equal footing with" ISO).
I am concerned that the text on the right side of slide 9 could undermine
IEEE's efforts to reinforce its stature as a truly international SDO.

There appears to be a typo in the last bullet on slide 15 ("This mechanism
was outlined n 6N11917 but apparently never implemented" - I assume should
be "... outlined IN 6N11917 ..."  

Regards,
Carl


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** 
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Myles (amyles)
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 12:37 AM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] request for input from 802 EC members 
> regarding 8802-1 review
> 
> G'day all
> 
> I have attached a slightly modified version of the proposed 
> IEEE 802 EC position statement on 8802-1 fixing some errors I 
> found over the weekend
> 
> Andrew
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:40 AM
> Subject: [802SEC] request for input from 802 EC members 
> regarding 8802-1 review
> 
> 
> 
> Dear EC Members,
> 
> In an e-mail sent to this reflector two weeks ago a process 
> was outlined to develop an IEEE 802 LMSC position on 
> potential revisions to ISO/IEC TR 8802-1:2001, which 
> documents a cooperation process between IEEE 802 LMSC and 
> ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6/WG1.
> 
> Since that time a small group has contributed to a draft position IEEE
> 802 LMSC statement for submission to Robin Tasker (editor of 
> 8802-1) by
> 27 Sept 06. Andrew Myles coordinated the activity and 
> developed the draft position statement in the attached 
> powerpoint document.
> Contributions were received from Geoff Thompson, Steve Mills, 
> Pat Thaler, David Law, Andrew Myles, Gary Robinson, Bob 
> Pritchard and Paul Nikolich. The draft position does not 
> necessarily represent the views of all contributors.
> 
> The original plan was to have a teleconference next week to 
> discuss the position statement. However, the lack of response 
> from the EC (and, presumably, their WG/TAG membership) 
> suggests this is probably not a useful exercise. The lack of 
> response is not surprising because, although the the 
> relationship with ISO/IEC is important, it is "esoteric 
> standards work", orthogonal to the interests of most Working 
> Group members.
> 
> A slightly modified process to approve this document will now be
> followed:
> 
>   a.. The draft position statement is attached to this e-mail 
> for comments by the 802 EC. Comments should be sent to the 
> 802 EC reflector and cc'ed to Andrew Myles 
> (andrew.myles@cisco.com). The closing date for comments is 
> 5pm ET on Thursday, 7 Sept 06.
>   b.. Andrew Myles will generate an updated version of the 
> draft position statement based on these comments by 7am ET on 
> Friday, 8 Sept 06.
>   c.. The 8 Sept 06 version will be sent out for EC approval 
> via an 802 EC e-mail ballot on 8 Sept 06. The ballot will 
> close on 17 Sept 06.
>   d.. If the EC ballot fails, Andrew Myles will make further 
> changes early in the week during the IEEE 802.11 WG interim 
> session in Melbourne and a second 802 EC e-mail ballot will 
> be issued with a closing date of
> 26 Sept 06.
>   e.. I want to avoid a second EC e-mail ballot--hence the 
> 1-7 Sept comment period--please, please, please provide your 
> input prior to 5 pm ET 7 Sept 06.
>   f.. Assuming a position statement is approved, it will be 
> sent to Robin Tasker on 26 Sept 06.
> Andrew Myles is available to discuss the draft position 
> statement at any time after 5am (3pm ET) any day next week on 
> +61 2 84461010 (W) or +61
> 418
> 656587 (M).
> 
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